[Taxacom] Taxonomy and nomenclature deliberately confused to further an agenda

[Stephen Thorpe]

This underestimates the potential gravity of the issue. While Hoser isn't exactly behaving ethically, he is no worse in this regard than his opponents! If there is an available name for a taxon, then use it! Don't rename it because you don't like the previous guy! Today Hoser, tomorrow ...

Stephen

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On Mon, 22/8/16, Barry OConnor <bmoc at umich.edu> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Taxonomy and nomenclature deliberately confused to further an agenda
 To: "Michael A. Ivie" <mivie at montana.edu>
 Cc: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>, "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
 Received: Monday, 22 August, 2016, 12:40 PM
 
 As I
 recall, this issue was discussed ad nauseum some time back,
 with the general conclusion being just as you say: if
 everyone ignores the names, they will go away, acceptance of
 the Code being voluntary after all.All the best! -
 Barry
 On Sun,
 Aug 21, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu>
 wrote:
 Stephen,
 
 
 
 While your horrified tone it totally justified, and your
 interpretation spot on, this is a great example for my class
 of the fact that the Code is only followed voluntarily, and
 anyone is actually free to just go off on their own
 direction.
 
 
 
 This Hoser thing needs to be dealt with, it is festering
 badly as it is.
 
 
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 
 
 On 8/21/2016 3:52 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
 
 
 This is disturbingly unfortunate:
 
 
 
 Bucklitsch, Y.; Böhme, W.; Koch, A. 2016: Scale morphology
 and micro-structure of monitor lizards (Squamata: Varanidae:
 Varanus spp.) and their allies: implications for
 systematics, ecology, and conservation. Zootaxa, 4153(1):
 1-192. doi: 10.11646/zootaxa.4153.1.1
 
 
 
 See p. 38: [Quote]Due to several severe shortcomings of
 Hoser’s (2013) descriptions, we follow the opinion and
 recommendation by Kaiser et al. (2013) and consider the
 genus name proposed by Hoser (2013) for the V. prasinus
 species group unscientific and unavailable.[unquote]
 
 
 
 So, if an author considers (for whatever reason) that a
 previous author's description is inadequate in some
 (unspecified) way(s), then the new name can be considered to
 be unavailable, ignored and renamed as new! I must have
 missed that in the Code!!
 
 
 
 Yuck,
 
 
 
 Stephen
 
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