[Taxacom] Taxonomy and nomenclature deliberately confused to further an agenda

[Stephen Thorpe]

Hi Mike,
Yes, I tend to agree that the Hoser thing needs to be dealt with. While it is true that the Code is only followed "voluntarily", this is problematic in that it can cause division within the taxonomic community (even excluding Hoser) with some people taking the opportunity to publish Code compliant nomenclature to counter other people's non-Code complaint nomenclature, which is all a waste of time! Note that, in this case, we have people taking the opportunity to publish Code compliant nomenclature to usurp other people's (Hoser's) Code complaint nomenclature! This is an even bigger waste of time! At any rate, editors should reject submissions which are not Code compliant (or which contain nomenclatural acts that are a waste of time, as in the present case), but, unfortunately they often don't seem to be able to judge, or to care.
Cheers,
Stephen

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On Mon, 22/8/16, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Taxonomy and nomenclature deliberately confused to further an agenda
 To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu, "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
 Received: Monday, 22 August, 2016, 11:48 AM
 
 Stephen,
 
 While your horrified tone it
 totally justified, and your interpretation 
 spot on, this is a great example for my class
 of the fact that the Code 
 is only followed
 voluntarily, and anyone is actually free to just go off 
 on their own direction.
 
 This Hoser thing needs to be dealt with, it is
 festering badly as it is.
 
 Mike
 
 
 On
 8/21/2016 3:52 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
 > This is disturbingly unfortunate:
 >
 > Bucklitsch, Y.;
 Böhme, W.; Koch, A. 2016: Scale morphology and
 micro-structure of monitor lizards (Squamata: Varanidae:
 Varanus spp.) and their allies: implications for
 systematics, ecology, and conservation. Zootaxa, 4153(1):
 1-192. doi: 10.11646/zootaxa.4153.1.1
 >
 > See p. 38: [Quote]Due
 to several severe shortcomings of Hoser’s (2013)
 descriptions, we follow the opinion and recommendation by
 Kaiser et al. (2013) and consider the genus name proposed by
 Hoser (2013) for the V. prasinus species group unscientific
 and unavailable.[unquote]
 >
 > So, if an author considers (for whatever
 reason) that a previous author's description is
 inadequate in some (unspecified) way(s), then the new name
 can be considered to be unavailable, ignored and renamed as
 new! I must have missed that in the Code!!
 >
 > Yuck,
 >
 > Stephen
 >
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