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[John Grehan]

Funny how 'leading' scientific journals are so often in the vanguard of
sidelining whatever they feel discomfort over. I usually refer to such
journals as 'prominent', 'popular' or 'dominant' as they may exert power,
'prestige' (I've even seen scientists boasting that their paper is in a
prestigious journal - good grief) but this has no necessary bearing on
whether they are leading or not. Systematic Biology (at least as its
preceding Systematic Zoology) used to be a leading journal,
publishing contrasting and opposing views concerning the contentious issues
of the day. Now it's just a boring moribund shadow of its former self -
even if it remains for some a prestigious or prominent etc.

Cheers, John

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 11:41?PM Frank T. Krell via Taxacom <
taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:

> I am not particularly impressed from what I have seen on this website.
> This seems to be mainly - from what I have seen - about commo names.
> Scientific names also get increasingly criticized as being harmful in
> cases. A paper countering such tendencies and pleading for nomenclatural
> stability has just been published (after having been rejected by several
> leading journals, of course):
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F381547435_Protecting_stable_biological_nomenclatural_systems_enables_universal_communication_A_collective_international_appeal&data%7C02%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C71c3f0836cbd479c1fb208dc940382b3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638547990608723521%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C60000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=quQlyuE0pIFNK22e2Iu5pprn%2Fc1ebs3DGhqMP7Qunfg%3D&reserved=0
> We got support from over 1500 colleagues from about 100 countries. It has
> been on ResearchGate as a pre-print for several months, but now it is
> properly published.
> Cheers
>
> Frank
>
>
> Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell
>
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> Commissioner and Councillor, International Commission on Zoological
> Nomenclature
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of TIMOTHY A
> DICKINSON via Taxacom
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 4:20 AM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Taxacom: Botannica Tirannica ? Giselle Beiguelman
>
> This is a most depressing exhibition and website. So far I have only
> looked at the website, but I will have a chance to visit the installation
> here in Toronto this summer.
>
> Frankly, I don't know where to start in responding to it, or to whom.
> Has anyone on the list already encountered the exhibition, say in Brazil
> or Italy? Have a look at the long, multi-part curatorial statement. It's as
> if the author lives in a world to which science has contributed nothing
> positive, and imperialism has only ever been practiced by Europeans. The
> author seems to revel in the antisemitic, racist, and sexist tropes used in
> common names that they have discovered.
>
> I don't see why botanists (who comprise people of many genders, skin
> colors, ethnicities, and religions) should have to answer for sins that too
> many people would commit if they had the opportunity to do so, denigrating
> the other, construing circumstances in their favor, and taking what isn't
> theirs. These things should be attacked directly, as capitalism
> (exploitation of others), or religious chauvinism (the Christian roots of
> antisemitism), or the unfairness of gender stereotypes.
>
> ---tad.
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