Taxacom: nomen nudum and synonymy question

[Paul van Rijckevorsel]

In the interest of harmony between the various Codes,
it seems much preferable to maintain "rank" in its
present (universally understood) meaning.

Whether or not the terms "family-group", "genus-group",
and "species-group" are a good idea is another matter, but
any change will cause confusion. New terms had better
be a big improvement to justify a change.

Paul

On 27-Jan-23 22:54, Francisco Welter-Schultes via Taxacom wrote:
> Hi Doug,
> Actually your immediate approach would sound more logical, and I've 
> never understood why they selected these terms "rank" and "group" for 
> these meanings. It would make much more sense to talk of three ranks 
> family, genus and species, and then subdivide in subranks or so. The 
> term "group" has so many different meanings in taxonomy that it does 
> not seem to fit really well for this purpose it has in the Code.
>
> The Linz Zoocode Committee uses the term "series" instead of "group", 
> so also they are not happy with the ICZN terminology in this point.
>
> Best wishes
> Francisco
>
> Am 27.01.2023 um 22:24 schrieb Douglas Yanega via Taxacom:
>> On 1/27/23 11:02 AM, Francisco Welter-Schultes via Taxacom wrote:
>>> The definition for "rank" given in the Glossary is this one:
>>>
>>> rank, n. The level, for nomenclatural purposes, of a taxon in a 
>>> taxonomic hierarchy (e.g. all families are for nomenclatural 
>>> purposes at the same rank, which lies between superfamily and 
>>> subfamily). The ranks of the family group, the genus group, and the 
>>> species group at which nominal taxa may be established are stated in 
>>> Articles 10.3, 10.4, 35.1, 42.1 and 45.1.
>>>
>>> A statement "there are three ranks in the Code: family-rank, 
>>> genus-rank, and species-rank" would not be in line with this 
>>> definition. 
>>
>> Apologies. For some reason (low blood sugar?) when I responded I 
>> forgot that the terminology in the Code is family-group, genus-group, 
>> and species-group, not family-rank, etc. The "group" designation 
>> crosses Linnean rank boundaries, but Francisco is correct, the Code 
>> *does* use rank in the Linnean sense; it's the "-group" 
>> categorization that is unique to the Code.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
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