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Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?

Richard Pyle deepreef at bishopmuseum.org
Tue Sep 6 03:55:41 CDT 2022 

> Incidentally there are two records for Zootaxa

Not anymore! (This was one of the dupes I found and dealt with this morning in my "sweep").  I actually found another one while I was testing my ISSN-matching code, which was spelled "Zootoxa".  That's what inspired my "Jx"/"Jy" example in my earlier email.

Aloha,
Rich

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Lynn Raw via
> Taxacom
> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 3:35 AM
> To: Lynn Raw <lynn at afriherp.org>
> Cc: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> 
> Incidentally there are two records for Zootaxa, one of the most prolific
> publishers of taxonomic papers. Stephen, would you say that the 22 publications
> under the upper record are invalid as they do not have any indication of an
> archive?
> 
> LSIDurn:lsid:zoobank.org:pub:5F4FEA91-C796-450A-8E1A-A26048A36D2D
> 
> 
> 
> (22 publications)
> 
> Series:
> ISSN (Print):	1175-5326
> (Online):	1175-5334
> Publisher:
> Place Published:
> Language:
> 
> 
> LSIDurn:lsid:zoobank.org:pub:78F99150-21C2-4639-B359-F3E2302DF0B7
> (27045 publications)
> 
> 
> 
> Series:
> ISSN (Print):	1175-5326
> (Online):	1175-5334
> Online Archives:	National Digital Heritage Archive of The National Library of
> New Zealand (added: Sep 3 2012 2:02PM UTC)
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> Publisher:	Magnolia Press
> Place Published:	Auckland, New Zealand
> Language:	English
> 
> There may be an explanation for this as the 22 publications above were all
> published in 2022. Perhaps an administrative error by the journal staff or
> authors trying to register their work independently?
> 
> Lynn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 5 Sep 2022, at 15.09, Lynn Raw via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > Stephen, If you spot what appears to be an invalid journal registration then it
> is simple matter of searching Zoobank for duplicate entries of the journal. If
> duplicates are found then if one of those entries is compliant then your question
> is answered. If not then wouldn’t it be a good idea to notify those involved of the
> problem?
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> >
> >> On 5 Sep 2022, at 13.15, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Lynn, I'm not confusing anything. If someone preregisters an article on
> ZooBank today, creating a new journal record without a specified archive, then
> the journal record used has no specified archive, so the registration is
> ineffectual, EXCEPT that Rich is saying that if there already exists a duplicate
> record for the same journal, but with a specified archive (created, say a decade
> ago), then if Rich merges the duplicate journal records into one, the registration
> looks as though it used the old journal record all along, i.e. the one with the
> specified archive. What this means is that if you want to look at ZooBank to
> verify that a pregistration was done properly, you have to consider duplicate
> journal records which may eventually be merged. This just complicates matters
> and seems rather messy to my mind. It is basically rewriting history to cover up
> mistakes.
> >> Cheers, Stephen
> >> On Monday, 5 September 2022 at 10:33:22 pm NZST, Adam Cotton via
> Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/09/2022 04:41, Thomas Pape via Taxacom wrote:
> >>> Names that are published [for the purposes of zoological nomenclature]
> after 1930 but fails to conform to Art. 13 are nomina nuda.
> >>> Names published [for the purposes of zoological nomenclature] after 1999
> and complying with Art. 13 but not complying with Article 16 are "unavailable".
> >>>
> >>> /Thomas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> I was waiting for further comment on this or direct replies to my
> >> question repeated here:
> >>> What status do you give to names published after 1999 but not
> >>> complying with Article 16? I would also treat these as nomina nuda.
> >>
> >> Since there have been no further replies I would like to bring it up
> >> again, particularly as it seems to be an unclear consequence of the
> >> wording of Code edition 4.
> >>
> >> I feel that while I agree with Thomas Pape's reply, just referring to
> >> names which are non-compliant with article 16 to be treated as
> >> 'unavailable' is somewhat inadequate. I am particularly thinking of
> >> how to treat such names in synonymic lists. Calling these 'Nomen
> >> Nudum' is a clear label, but separating them as just 'unavailable'
> >> brings up the question 'why?' in the mind of a reader of the synonymic list for
> a taxon.
> >>
> >> I have generally regarded such names as nomina nuda because they are
> >> effectively the same ... names in a work which conforms to Code
> >> publication requirements, but which are not available for use as
> >> taxon names.
> >>
> >> I shall explain my particular case further, but without specifics. An
> >> author published a butterfly book in 2007 in which he described and
> >> named several new subspecies without designating type specimens
> >> according to article 16.4.1. After publication I contacted the
> >> author, who told me that he hadn't realised that the criteria had
> >> changed since the 3rd edition (i.e. he hadn't bothered to read the
> >> 4th edition). I then explained that he needed to re-describe the taxa
> >> in a Code compliant manner.
> >>
> >> In 2012 he published a 2nd edition of the book with holotypes
> >> designated, mostly not conforming to article 16.4.2 (indication of
> >> location of the holotype) but all of these names not conforming to
> >> article 16.1. In the 2nd edition he quoted the descriptions in the
> >> 1st edition but clearly treated each name as described in 2007, not
> >> explicitly stating them to be new from the 2012 publication. At this
> >> stage I gave up trying to advise him, as some names were no more than
> >> synonyms and others had been validly described elsewhere.
> >>
> >> My question about names which do not comply with article 16 was not
> >> specifically aimed at this case, but was a more general response to
> >> the Glossary definition of nomina nuda.
> >>
> >>
> >> Adam.
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