Taxacom: Reptile Database GitHub?
Wolfgang Wuster
w.wuster at bangor.ac.uk
Sun Oct 2 02:38:36 CDT 2022
2022
John,
The reasons for and pattern of widespread and generally agreed non-compliance with the Zoological Code in herpetology in a specific and clearly defined set of circumstances are described here: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Facademic.oup.com%2Fbiolinnean%2Farticle%2F133%2F3%2F645%2F6240088&data%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C267711ae37d845f51bfd08daa4491fa5%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638002931236608998%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=pFOASQIXUF7dBYXu3%2Flb6D0%2BwBoXio13xcgk9smtzJk%3D&reserved=0 (Open Access). That is the context for the deliberate exclusion of certain Code-compliant names from the Reptile Database mentioned by Peter Uetz.
Others are of course free to agree and disagree - I am not looking to start a debate, just providing the information requested by John.
Best wishes,
Wolfgang W?ster
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Sent: 02 October 2022 02:29
To: Peter Uetz <uetz at vcu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Taxacom: Reptile Database GitHub?
As an outsider to all of this kerfuffle in the reptile world, what I would
find interesting in any Taxacome discussion is the nature of non-code
compliant decisions being made. The code is just an evolving agreement
among some, and usually followed by most. But if one does not accept the
code in some respect, then one might expect an explanation so anyone may
decide for themselves whether such a decision makes sense - whether or not
they agree with it. I am guilty, along with various lepidopterists, in not
following the code with respect to gender agreement modifications of
existing names. But I otherwise try to follow the code as best I can or as
best as I understand. And I can accept being criticised for the exception.
I don't care about whether anyone may be considered a taxonomic 'vandal' or
not, just the nature of their decision, with which I may or may not agree.
John Grehan
On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 9:03 PM Peter Uetz via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
wrote:
> As Ray knows all too well, the ?errors? in the Reptile Database primarily
> refer to his own taxonomic vandalism and are thus indeed intentional ? at
> least in the sense that they are based on a broadly supported decision by
> the herpetological community, as explicated in numerous (peer-reviewed)
> publications.
>
> There is more to taxonomy than being Code-compliant, Ray.
> That said, I won?t respond to any further allegations along these lines.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> > On Oct 1, 2022, at 4:58 PM, Raymond Hoser - The Snakeman <
> viper007 at live.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Carlos,
> >
> > you are assuming incorrectly that Peter Uetz wants to fix the errors in
> his non ICZN code complaint (reptile) database.
> > Fact is that he has made it clear on many occasions that the errors in
> his database are INTENTIONAL on his part.
> > And all indications are is that he intends building yet more errors into
> his non-ICZN database.
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Raymond Hoser
>
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