[Taxacom] more science nonsense

[John Grehan]

Ken, whether it is a waste of time or not to convince me that there was a
"center of origin", the problem is that no one has presented anything in
the way of a necessary connection between the oldest fossil of a basal
group and an imagined center of origin.

If you are going to assert that my arguments in this thread "make little or
no sense " you might explain the basis in order for me to defend your
characterization - science this is about science and not politics (where
any kind of assertion can be made whether true or not and without
supporting evidence).

John Grehan



On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:07 PM Kenneth Kinman via Taxacom <
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>          In the original post, John said "Apart from the center of origin
> illusion...".  Therefore, just trying to convince him that there was a
> "center of origin" at all, is probably a waste of time.  Anyway, I agree
> that John's arguments in this thread make little or no sense, so I am not
> wasting my time responding.
>          But I do appreciate your input, and I would agree that this new
> evidence for an origin in the Southern Hemisphere is important and that
> their suggestion does makes sense.
>                       ----------------Ken
>
> ________________________________
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> on behalf of Stephen
> Thorpe via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:41 PM
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>; Frederick W.
> Schueler <bckcdb at istar.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] more science nonsense
>
> "So ye, one's fingerprints on the murder weapon is only evidence that you
> touched the weapon at some stage recently, and not any kind of evidence
> that you are the murderer."
> No way, John, that is truly nonsense. No offence, but you evidently (no
> pun intended!) fail to understand the concept of evidence! In the example,
> the fingerprints on the murder weapon are very very strong evidence that
> you touched the weapon at some stage recently, AND slightly less strong
> evidence that you are the murderer. Strength of evidence is a matter of
> degree. You, however, have explicitly denied that the fingerprints are
> [quote]any kind of evidence that you are the murderer[unquote]! Of course
> they are evidence, quite strong evidence at that!
> Stephen
>     On Wednesday, 2 October 2019, 08:48:22 pm UTC, Frederick W. Schueler
> via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>
>  On 02-Oct.-19 4:37 p.m., John Grehan via Taxacom wrote:
>
> > "If a group did have a S Hemi origin, then one would expect the oldest
> and
> > most primitive fossils to be found there" - only if the fossil record is
> a
> > complete and accurate record of origin and that there is a center of
> origin
> > within the range of the group represented.
>
> * would "is not incompatible with the hypothesis that..." be less
> nonsensical that "suggests..."?
>
> fred.
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