[Taxacom] more science nonsense

[John Grehan]

I will note that Ken's statement " Therefore, just trying to convince him
that there was a "center of origin" at all, is probably a waste of time."
is rather ironic in that there never has been any demonstration that
allopatry arises from a center of origin. It was just an invention made by
Darwin without scientific basis then or since.

John Grehan

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:07 PM Kenneth Kinman via Taxacom <
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>          In the original post, John said "Apart from the center of origin
> illusion...".  Therefore, just trying to convince him that there was a
> "center of origin" at all, is probably a waste of time.  Anyway, I agree
> that John's arguments in this thread make little or no sense, so I am not
> wasting my time responding.
>          But I do appreciate your input, and I would agree that this new
> evidence for an origin in the Southern Hemisphere is important and that
> their suggestion does makes sense.
>                       ----------------Ken
>
> ________________________________
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> on behalf of Stephen
> Thorpe via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:41 PM
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>; Frederick W.
> Schueler <bckcdb at istar.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] more science nonsense
>
> "So ye, one's fingerprints on the murder weapon is only evidence that you
> touched the weapon at some stage recently, and not any kind of evidence
> that you are the murderer."
> No way, John, that is truly nonsense. No offence, but you evidently (no
> pun intended!) fail to understand the concept of evidence! In the example,
> the fingerprints on the murder weapon are very very strong evidence that
> you touched the weapon at some stage recently, AND slightly less strong
> evidence that you are the murderer. Strength of evidence is a matter of
> degree. You, however, have explicitly denied that the fingerprints are
> [quote]any kind of evidence that you are the murderer[unquote]! Of course
> they are evidence, quite strong evidence at that!
> Stephen
>     On Wednesday, 2 October 2019, 08:48:22 pm UTC, Frederick W. Schueler
> via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>
>  On 02-Oct.-19 4:37 p.m., John Grehan via Taxacom wrote:
>
> > "If a group did have a S Hemi origin, then one would expect the oldest
> and
> > most primitive fossils to be found there" - only if the fossil record is
> a
> > complete and accurate record of origin and that there is a center of
> origin
> > within the range of the group represented.
>
> * would "is not incompatible with the hypothesis that..." be less
> nonsensical that "suggests..."?
>
> fred.
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