[Taxacom] more science nonsense

[Anthony Gill]

I side with John and Michael in arguing that the fossil is silent on the
origin of the group - I'm not even sure whether "origin" (whether in
systematics or biogeography) is a question that can be addressed
"evidence". All we know is that a member of the clade was present at that
time and place. These arguments were played out in the early 80s, though I
suspect our views are in the minority.

Tony

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 9:42 AM Stephen Thorpe via Taxacom <
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:

>  "So ye, one's fingerprints on the murder weapon is only evidence that you
> touched the weapon at some stage recently, and not any kind of evidence
> that you are the murderer."
> No way, John, that is truly nonsense. No offence, but you evidently (no
> pun intended!) fail to understand the concept of evidence! In the example,
> the fingerprints on the murder weapon are very very strong evidence
> that you touched the weapon at some stage recently, AND slightly less
> strong evidence that you are the murderer. Strength of evidence is a matter
> of degree. You, however, have explicitly denied that the fingerprints are
> [quote]any kind of evidence that you are the murderer[unquote]! Of course
> they are evidence, quite strong evidence at that!
> Stephen
>     On Wednesday, 2 October 2019, 08:48:22 pm UTC, Frederick W. Schueler
> via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>
>  On 02-Oct.-19 4:37 p.m., John Grehan via Taxacom wrote:
>
> > "If a group did have a S Hemi origin, then one would expect the oldest
> and
> > most primitive fossils to be found there" - only if the fossil record is
> a
> > complete and accurate record of origin and that there is a center of
> origin
> > within the range of the group represented.
>
> * would "is not incompatible with the hypothesis that..." be less
> nonsensical that "suggests..."?
>
> fred.
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