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[Taxacom] Now 2 species/genera in Placozoa...

Richard Pyle deepreef at bishopmuseum.org
Sat Sep 22 19:35:11 CDT 2018 

I can address this question.  When a duplicate record is discovered in ZooBank, it is merged with the correct record, and all the records linked to the duplicate get transferred to the correct.  I think that an error of this sort should not be regarded as a failure to indicate an intended archive, during the period of time when the record was linked to the duplicate journal record.  But I suppose one could argue that perspective.

Also, I should point out that in ZooBank, either the work itself (e.g., article) or the parent work (e.g., Journal) can have the archive indicated.  So just because a particular journal does not have an indicated archive doesn't mean a given article within that journal doesn't have an archive indicated directly.  This has happened a few times, where an author of a paper in a journal that does not include an indicated archive has instead asserted the intention of archive the article directly (e.g., in Zenodo or Internet Arcive).

Aloha,
Rich

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Thorpe
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:51 PM
> To: Tony Rees; taxacom; Thomas Pape
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Now 2 species/genera in Placozoa...
> 
> BTW Thomas, what about this fairly common scenario:
> A journal does have a record on ZooBank with an intended archive, but an
> author creates a duplicate record for the journal, without an intended
> archive, and preregisters a publication under the duplicate journal record
> (erroneously thinking that the journal has to be registered again anew each
> time a publication is registered!) Stephen
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 23/9/18, Thomas Pape <tpape at snm.ku.dk> wrote:
> 
>  Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Now 2 species/genera in Placozoa...
>  To: "Tony Rees" <tonyrees49 at gmail.com>, "Stephen Thorpe"
> <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>, "taxacom"
> <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>  Received: Sunday, 23 September, 2018, 10:49 AM
> 
>  Unfortunately, it is more
>  complicated than that.
>  The original work was
>  published e-only and without evidence in the work itself of  registration in
> ZooBank.
>  The journal PLOS
>  BIOLOGY does not provide an intended archive under its  registration in
> ZooBank.
>  Therefore, this
>  work cannot be regarded as published for the purposes of  zoological
> nomenclature in its electronic form.
>  Thus, unless there is a printed version of the  work, the correction does not
> point to a published work.
>  Even the correction itself does not comply with  the ICZN in its electronic
> form.
> 
>  The placozoan names therefore remain
>  unavailable.
> 
>  The Commission
>  is aware of the problems associated with such published but  non-compliant
> works.
>  Until a solution has
>  been implemented, it is strongly recommended to consult with  the
> Commission before attempting to 'resurrect'
>  names and nomenclatural acts.
> 
>  Thomas Pape
> 
> 
> 
>  -----Original
>  Message-----
>  From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>  On Behalf Of Tony Rees
>  Sent: 22. september
>  2018 23:47
>  To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
>  Cc: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>  Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Now 2 species/genera in  Placozoa...
> 
>  Just for
>  completeness, this is to note that the authors of Eitel et  al.
>  (2018) have now published a correction
>  that includes the relevant zoobank LSIDs to make the names  mentioned
> above available.
> 
> 
> https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id.1371/journal.pbio.300003
> 2
> 
>  Regards - Tony
> 
>  Tony Rees, New South Wales,
>  Australia
> 
> 
> 
>  On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 09:09,
>  Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
>  wrote:
> 
>  > I
>  just now saw the lead author retrospectively register the  article on  >
> ZooBank. I wonder if he  understands fully that this does not directly  >
> address/solve the problem?
>  >
>  > Stephen
>  >
>  >
>  --------------------------------------------
>  > On Mon, 6/8/18, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >  Subject:
>  Re: [Taxacom] Now 2 species/genera in Placozoa...
>  >  To: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>  >  Cc: "taxacom"
> <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>  >  Received: Monday, 6 August, 2018,
> 12:18  PM  >  >  >  On Mon, 6 Aug  >
>  2018 at 08:42, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>  >  wrote:
>  >  Anyway
>  [Big sigh!], the paper
>  >  appears to be
>  published e-only without ZooBank  preregistration, so  > the new names don't
> exist  anyway!!
>  >
>  >
>  Stephen
>  >
>  >  Hi
>  Stephen, that does indeed appear
>  >  to
>  be the case. I have just sent an email to the lead author  in  > Germany to see
> if they wish to  rectify the apparent  oversight.
>  >
>  Best
>  >  regards - Tony
>  >
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