[Taxacom] Correct name of the Wasp Spider

Mon Jul 10 06:32:51 CDT 2017

I'd say his name is not of Germanic derivation but Scandinavian, thus no "ue"

Our Brünnich was born in Copenhagen, the son of painter Andreas Brünniche, also of Copenhagen.

He did travel throughout Europe, but his surname never changed its derivation as a result of his travels ...

-Neal

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From: Taxacom [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Paul van Rijckevorsel [dipteryx at freeler.nl]
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Correct name of the Wasp Spider

Well, people travel, people settle in other countries.
Nationality is not decisive here.

Paul

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> If Morten Thrane Brünnich was a Danish Zoologist then isn't it a Danish
> word and the "ü" replaced by a "u" and not "ue"?
>
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> Paul van Rijckevorsel
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> For completeness sake, the -e- will have been added because it was
> (presumably) named after the Danish zoologist Morten Thrane Brünnich. As
> governed by Article 32.5.2.1 an umlaut in a German word (or a word about
> which there is doubt as to its provenance) is to be deleted and an -e- is
> to be added.
>
> Paul
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> From: "Doug Yanega" <dyanega at ucr.edu>
> To: <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Correct name of the Wasp Spider
>
>
>> On 7/7/17 5:14 AM, Dilrukshan Wijesinghe wrote:
>>> This is a classic case of nomenclatural busybodies "correcting" original
>>> spellings to their notion of what a name should be, without following
>>> the
>>> original spelling. The same thing has happened with numerous other
>>> spider
>>> names (and no doubt with the names of other animal species). To take
>>> another spider example: the original spelling of the name of the
>>> pantropical jumping spider which is usually given as "Plexippus
>>> paykulli"
>>> (with one terminal i) was Attus paykullii, described by Audouin in 1826.
>>> With its transfer to the genus Plexippus the name should, of course, be
>>> written as Plexippus paykullii (Audouin, 1826), yet the World Spider
>>> Catalog (http://www.wsc.nmbe.ch/species/32089/Plexippus_paykulli) gives
>>> it as Plexippus paykulli. Roewer (1954, Katalog der Araneae, 2b, p.
>>> 1086)
>>> gives this name correctly as Plexippus paykullii.
>>> I think the wholesale changing of -ii to -i for the names of spiders was
>>> introduced in the more recent spider catalogs.
>>
>> There is a Code Article for this specific type of change (below), and the
>> same rule (33.3.1) applies; if the incorrect spelling is in prevailing
>> usage, then it *becomes* correct, accordingly. If the only place these
>> spider names are spelled "-i" is in the catalogs, then they might not
>> qualify as being in prevailing usage (also below).
>>
>> "33.4.Use of -/i/for -/ii/and vice versa, and other alternative
>> spellings,
>> in subsequent spellings of species-group names.The use of the genitive
>> ending -/i/in a subsequent spelling of a species-group name that is a
>> genitive based upon a personal name in which the correct original
>> spelling
>> ends with -/ii/, or vice versa, is deemed to be an incorrect subsequent
>> spelling, even if the change in spelling is deliberate; the same rule
>> applies to the endings -/ae/and -/iae/, -/orum/and -/iorum/,
>> and -/arum/and -/iarum/."
>>
>> "*usage, prevailing*,/n/.
>>
>> Of a name: that usage of the name which is adopted by *at least a
>> substantial majority of the most recent authors* concerned with the
>> relevant taxon, *irrespective of how long ago* their work was published."
>> (emphasis mine, to highlight that one calculates usage by counting
>> AUTHORS, not works, and that one can go back as far as one deems
>> necessary
>> to assess the pattern).
>>
>> I'm not pointing this out to start a debate over the pros and cons of
>> "prevailing usage", only to point out that these provisions do exist, and
>> that the reason these provisions exist is so people won't keep changing
>> spelling back and forth based on finding old forgotten references, and
>> arguments over grammar. The "novel" principle that the 2000 Code edition
>> introduced is that stability is best achieved through consensus (rather
>> than incessant one-upmanship as to who can dredge up the oldest and most
>> obscure references, or make the most scholarly foray into the nuances of
>> Latin grammatical construction). It is unfortunately hard to come up with
>> a purely objective criterion as to what, exactly, constitutes
>> "consensus",
>> so the definition of prevailing usage adopted is not perfect, but it's an
>> approximation. Names can be rendered *permanently* unalterable via the
>> List of Available Names (LAN: Article 79), but that's a special and
>> difficult process.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> --
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