[Taxacom] R: type material and manuscript name

Fri Jul 31 06:24:24 CDT 2015

Dear Fabio,
I assume that this is a zoological question, not botany.

I also assume that you have a relatively old description, Fabio, perhaps 
from before 1900, when it was usual practice to attribute names to 
manuscript authors.

If so, then the authorship follows Art. 50.1.1 ICZN Code. The authorship 
must be attributed to the author of the work (so, to AA). Except that 
the name and the criteria of making the name available (i.e., the 
description) were both attributed to a different author. You said that a 
description was present, so this description would count here. If the 
description was not explicitly attributed to BB (I understood that the 
description was not attributed to BB), then the authorship must be 
attributed to AA alone, with no mention of BB in any form.

So the name would be XY AA.

Now the types. Just adding "BB ms." behind the name does not necessarily 
mean that AA really saw that material of BB's collection. Only if the 
original source gives a clear statement that the material in BB's 
collection was actually seen and analysed, then BB's material would be 
part of the type series. Or if something else suggested that BB's 
material was anylsed by AA, before the date of finishing the manuscript. 
In such a case, and if there were different species deposited in AA's 
and BB's collections, it would be necessary to select a lectotype.

Hope this helps. Best wishes
Francisco

University of Goettingen, Germany

Am 31.07.2015 um 12:06 schrieb Fabio Crocetta:
> Ok, but the type material is the species in the collection AA or in the collection BB (that are different species, each of the two author had a different idea of the taxon)??
>
> I would say that the authority should be AA (and absolutely not BB because BB did not describe it formally) and the type material should be that in the AA collection, but this is my idea only, I do not know if there is a common way to act or if I'm wrong somewhere...
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> XY BB (in AA).  Type material should ideally be lodged in a recognised institution or Museum so that the it is readily available to others.
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> On 31/07/2015 10:05, "Fabio Crocetta" <fabiocrocetta at alice.it> wrote:
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>> Dear all,
>> a question: if I have the author AA that described a species based on a
>> manuscript by BB (in a few words the author AA described the species XY
>> giving the authority as BB ms.). Now, the species has to be assigned to
>> the author AA, right? And also the type material should be searched in
>> the collection of the author AA, right?
>>
>> I'm asking that because the author BB in his collection under this name
>> has a species, whilst the author AA in his collection under this name
>> has a different species...
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> F.
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