[Taxacom] R: type material and manuscript name

Fri Jul 31 06:22:32 CDT 2015

Ah, I see what you mean. Very messy indeed. AA has credited BB with the
name and references BB’s manuscript. However, did AA (in his "few words”)
use text from BB’s manuscript to define/describe the species (If zoology,
see Article 50.1). Also, did AA cite any types?

Quite simply, did AA make BB’s species name available by citation in AA's
publication, even though AA misidentified the species?

I’m sure this situation must have arisen before and someone very familiar
with the Code of Nomenclature and could advise ...

On 31/07/2015 11:06, "Fabio Crocetta" <fabiocrocetta at alice.it> wrote:

>Ok, but the type material is the species in the collection AA or in the
>collection BB (that are different species, each of the two author had a
>different idea of the taxon)??
>
>I would say that the authority should be AA (and absolutely not BB
>because BB did not describe it formally) and the type material should be
>that in the AA collection, but this is my idea only, I do not know if
>there is a common way to act or if I'm wrong somewhere...
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>XY BB (in AA).  Type material should ideally be lodged in a recognised
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>On 31/07/2015 10:05, "Fabio Crocetta" <fabiocrocetta at alice.it> wrote:
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>>Dear all,
>>a question: if I have the author AA that described a species based on a
>>manuscript by BB (in a few words the author AA described the species XY
>>giving the authority as BB ms.). Now, the species has to be assigned to
>>the author AA, right? And also the type material should be searched in
>>the collection of the author AA, right?
>>
>>I'm asking that because the author BB in his collection under this name
>>has a species, whilst the author AA in his collection under this name
>>has a different species...
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>F.
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Mae pob neges ebost a anfonir i neu gan Amgueddfa Cymru yn cael ei 
sganio gan systemau diogelwch awtomatig er mwyn rheoli negeseuon 
digymell a dileu cynnwys amhriodol neu beryglus. Cafodd y neges hon ei 
sganio am firysau cyn ei hanfon, ond dylech hefyd fodloni'ch hun bod y 
neges, a phob atodiad ynddi, yn rhydd o firysau cyn ei defnyddio gan 
nad yw'r Amgueddfa'n derbyn cyfrifoldeb am unrhyw golled neu ddifrod o 
ganlyniad i agor y neges neu unrhyw atodiadau. Gall y neges hon ac 
unrhyw ffeiliau a atodir ynddi gynnwys gwybodaeth gyfrinachol a 
fwriadwyd ar gyfer y derbynnydd yn unig. Os ydych chi wedi derbyn y 
neges trwy gamgymeriad, rhowch wybod i ni a chofiwch ddileu'r neges.
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