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Lynn Raw lynn at afriherp.org
Tue Apr 22 09:39:11 CDT 2014 

Does IMS also affect DNA extraction? I notice the the UK IMS 
formulation actually does include methanol unlike some other countries 
like New Zealand where the additives that make it smell and/or taste 
unpleasant don't include methanol.

Lynn Raw

On 22.04.2014 13:15, John Noyes wrote:
> Apart from trashing DNA, it also trashes many types of smaller
> insects by making them so stiff that the become difficult/impossible
> to card-mount or put on slides. The same also goes for IMS.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel 
> Janzen
> Sent: 22 April 2014 22:38
> To: Neal Evenhuis
> Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Palcohol?
>
> It is my understanding that isopropyl alcohol trashes DNA or
> otherwise makes it very difficult to extract.  Think on that for
> pickling museum specimens.  I know of no circumstance where you can
> get (or ship) isopropyl but not get (or ship) 80-95% ethanol.
>
> Just a thought.   Dan Janzen
>
>
> On Apr 21, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Neal Evenhuis <neale at bishopmuseum.org> 
> wrote:
>
>> FDA did not approve to begin with. Read the article I posted.
>>
>> On Stardate 4/21/14 5:34 PM, "Ken Kinman" 
>> <kinman at hotmail.com<mailto:kinman at hotmail.com>> scribbled the 
>> following tidbit:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>       Not much chance that it could be used for storing scientific 
>> specimens, as it only yields a solution that is about 12% ethanol by 
>> volume (plus water and carbohydrates), which is about the strength of 
>> wine.  And it would no doubt be a more costly alternative.  I think 
>> I'll stick with isopropyl alcohol (and a bit of glycerol) for my 
>> spider specimens.   In any case, the FDA has apparently already 
>> reversed itself and said that its approval of palcohol was an error.
>>                             ------------------Ken
>>
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------------------------
>>> From: neale at bishopmuseum.org<mailto:neale at bishopmuseum.org>
>>> To: mivie at montana.edu<mailto:mivie at montana.edu>;
>>> TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:15:01 -1000
>>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Palcohol?
>>>
>>> Seem legit. But there might problems getting it on shelves for sale
>>> (liability insurance $$ being just one). See here:
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://www.bevlaw.com/bevlog/alcohol-beverages-generally/powdered-alc
>>> ohol
>>>
>>> California already has regulations in place for powdered distilled
>>> beverages.
>>>
>>> -Neal
>>>
>>> On Stardate 4/21/14 9:56 AM, "Michael A. Ivie" 
>>> <mivie at montana.edu<mailto:mivie at montana.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, something that might not be as interesting as debates about
>>>> lizard descriptions, broken legs on misidentified specimens or
>>>> painbiogeography, but could be important to those flying to
>>>> collecting sites. Does anyone know anything about the newly FDA
>>>> approved power "Palcohol?" It can be mixed with water to obtain
>>>> ethanol. I strongly suspect this was an April Fool's joke, but
>>>> cannot debunk it. The Guardian ran a story, so I am tending to 
>>>> believe it may be true?
>>>>
>>>> This could be a great thing is formulated specifically for
>>>> scientific collecting? Someone out there must be out front on 
>>>> this?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.palcohol.com/home.html
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
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