[Taxacom] Palcohol?
John Noyes
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Tue Apr 22 07:15:10 CDT 2014
2014
Apart from trashing DNA, it also trashes many types of smaller insects by making them so stiff that the become difficult/impossible to card-mount or put on slides. The same also goes for IMS.
John
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From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Janzen
Sent: 22 April 2014 22:38
To: Neal Evenhuis
Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Palcohol?
It is my understanding that isopropyl alcohol trashes DNA or otherwise makes it very difficult to extract. Think on that for pickling museum specimens. I know of no circumstance where you can get (or ship) isopropyl but not get (or ship) 80-95% ethanol.
Just a thought. Dan Janzen
On Apr 21, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Neal Evenhuis <neale at bishopmuseum.org> wrote:
> FDA did not approve to begin with. Read the article I posted.
>
> On Stardate 4/21/14 5:34 PM, "Ken Kinman" <kinman at hotmail.com<mailto:kinman at hotmail.com>> scribbled the following tidbit:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Not much chance that it could be used for storing scientific specimens, as it only yields a solution that is about 12% ethanol by volume (plus water and carbohydrates), which is about the strength of wine. And it would no doubt be a more costly alternative. I think I'll stick with isopropyl alcohol (and a bit of glycerol) for my spider specimens. In any case, the FDA has apparently already reversed itself and said that its approval of palcohol was an error.
> ------------------Ken
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>> From: neale at bishopmuseum.org<mailto:neale at bishopmuseum.org>
>> To: mivie at montana.edu<mailto:mivie at montana.edu>;
>> TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:15:01 -1000
>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Palcohol?
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>> Seem legit. But there might problems getting it on shelves for sale
>> (liability insurance $$ being just one). See here:
>>
>> http://www.bevlaw.com/bevlog/alcohol-beverages-generally/powdered-alc
>> ohol
>>
>> California already has regulations in place for powdered distilled
>> beverages.
>>
>> -Neal
>>
>> On Stardate 4/21/14 9:56 AM, "Michael A. Ivie" <mivie at montana.edu<mailto:mivie at montana.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, something that might not be as interesting as debates about
>>> lizard descriptions, broken legs on misidentified specimens or
>>> painbiogeography, but could be important to those flying to
>>> collecting sites. Does anyone know anything about the newly FDA
>>> approved power "Palcohol?" It can be mixed with water to obtain
>>> ethanol. I strongly suspect this was an April Fool's joke, but
>>> cannot debunk it. The Guardian ran a story, so I am tending to believe it may be true?
>>>
>>> This could be a great thing is formulated specifically for
>>> scientific collecting? Someone out there must be out front on this?
>>>
>>> http://www.palcohol.com/home.html
>>>
>>> Mike
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