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Taxacom: iguana interview

Ivie, Michael mivie at montana.edu
Sun May 4 23:21:34 CDT 2025 

John, I thought you were a biogeographer?  San Salvador is northeast of Cuba, that is not in the Caribbean Sea!  Geez!

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From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of John Grehan via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2025 6:32 PM
To: Geoff Read <gread at actrix.gen.nz>
Cc: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: iguana interview

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" explained how iguana lineages from South America dispersed so easily
throughout the Caribbean & The Bahamas, with some reaching small islands
surrounded by deep-ocean environment"

It does not. It just shows that iguanas in the Caribbean can establish
multi island metapopulations. If to the contrary, interested in what
purports to be evidence.

On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 7:42?PM Geoff Read via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
wrote:

> Missed that the article was actually from five years ago in 2020, but the
> lead author has just reposted it on social media for its relevance to the
> Fiji rafting paper as that paper "explained how iguana lineages from South
> America dispersed so easily throughout the Caribbean & The Bahamas, with
> some reaching small islands surrounded by deep-ocean environments."
>
> --
> Geoffrey B. Read, Ph.D.
> Wellington, NEW ZEALAND
> gread at actrix.gen.nz
>
>
>
> >---- Original Message ----
> >From: Geoff Read via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> >To: "John Grehan" <calabar.john at gmail.com>
> >Cc: "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >Sent: Mon, May 5, 2025, 11:20 AM
> >Subject: Re: Taxacom: iguana interview
> >
> >For further recent news on iguana dispersal - a Bahamas trace fossil
> placed as an iguana nest burrow:
> >
> >
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconversation.com%2Fwe-discovered-a-115-000-year-old-iguana-nest-fossil-in-the-bahamas-151270&data=05%7C02%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cdeed578be6b64016db6e08dd8b8c587a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638820157100265482%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=q9bZJNCHlHqBlGRqM9reQvqRlQbqst3X8voFH0x7ADc%3D&reserved=0<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconversation.com%2Fwe-discovered-a-115-000-year-old-iguana-nest-fossil-in-the-bahamas-151270&data=05%7C02%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cdeed578be6b64016db6e08dd8b8c587a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638820157100284006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=OOMQgJ1CcFMugTQ5P5LdZMeobzNR8xSRmB6v0C%2FgA0s%3D&reserved=0>
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> >
> >"This fossil iguana burrow also establishes a minimum time for iguanas on
> San Salvador during the Middle-Late Pleistocene, which can be applied to
> better understanding the biogeographic dispersal of Cyclura throughout The
> Bahamas during the Pleistocene and Holocene"
> >
> >They discuss alternative explanations. Always possible with trace fossils.
> >
> >--
> >Geoffrey B. Read, Ph.D.
> >Wellington, NEW ZEALAND
> >gread at actrix.gen.nz
> >
> >
> >
> >>---- Original Message ----
> >>From: John Grehan via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> >>To: "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >>Sent: Mon, May 5, 2025, 5:47 AM
> >>Subject: Re: Taxacom: igunana interview
> >>
> >>ps -  Note the interviewers reference to it sounding like a Disney Movie
> -
> >>hint of cognitive dissonance that on one hand the interviewer has to
> >>swallow this stuff given the 'authority' of the source while on the other
> >>some deeper common sense says it sounds pretty absurd.
> >>
> >>On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 1:05?PM John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Link below. Chance dispersal believers will love it. The content is all
> >>> about belief, not scientific methodology at all.
> >>>
> >>> Ancient Iguanas Floated 5,000 Miles Across The Pacific
> >>> <
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