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Taxacom: Taxacom Digest, Vol 205, Issue 9

Brendon E. Boudinot boudinotb at gmail.com
Wed May 24 15:25:29 CDT 2023 

You know, Kirk, that this isn't sequence data. And that it isn't topology
estimation.

- B

On Wed, May 24, 2023, 13:01 <taxacom-request at lists.ku.edu> wrote:

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>    1. Ctenophora sister to all other Metazoa (Myriazoa or
>       Benthozoa?) (Kenneth Kinman)
>    2. Re: Ctenophora sister to all other Metazoa (Myriazoa or
>       Benthozoa?) (Kirk Fitzhugh)
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> Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 23:07:36 +0000
> From: Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com>
> To: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Subject: Taxacom: Ctenophora sister to all other Metazoa (Myriazoa or
>         Benthozoa?)
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> Hi All,
>         A recent paper in Nature provides very strong evidence which
> confirms that Phylum Ctenophora (not Porifera) is the sister group of all
> other Metazoa (but renames that sister group Myriazoa, instead of
> Benthozoa).  Wikipedia has now listed Myriazoa as a synonym of Benthozoa,
> but which clade name is more appropriate?  I personally agree that Myriazoa
> is probably a more appropriate name.
>                               ------------------Ken Kinman
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> Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 16:28:45 -0700
> From: Kirk Fitzhugh <kfitzhugh at nhm.org>
> To: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Ctenophora sister to all other Metazoa (Myriazoa
>         or      Benthozoa?)
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> The so-called evidence isn?t test evidence, so there?s no confirmation of
> any hypothesis. All that are inferred are putative hypotheses accounting
> for sequence data, at the exclusion of other relevant observations. Contra
> ?Our findings provide strong support for the ctenphore-sister scenario and
> reject the sponge-sister hypothesis.?
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> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 4:08 PM Kenneth Kinman via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
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> > Hi All,
> >         A recent paper in Nature provides very strong evidence which
> > confirms that Phylum Ctenophora (not Porifera) is the sister group of all
> > other Metazoa (but renames that sister group Myriazoa, instead of
> > Benthozoa).  Wikipedia has now listed Myriazoa as a synonym of Benthozoa,
> > but which clade name is more appropriate?  I personally agree that
> Myriazoa
> > is probably a more appropriate name.
> >                               ------------------Ken Kinman
> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fs41586-023-05936-6&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C686976cbdb6a42f2653908db5c950c2a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638205567559075087%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=d%2BX45VG8PQ1mBU6ir%2Ba2GX%2BAYAtgsl1zVWTDeQ7UIco%3D&reserved=0
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