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Taxacom: demystifying gender agreement ( was Re: Removals of offending scientific names)

Frank T. Krell Frank.Krell at dmns.org
Mon Jun 26 09:23:16 CDT 2023 

George knows me too. I was taught Latin at a public school (German school, so really public) very well for seven years, and the last three years I hated - it was just too long ?. But it helps so much with reading papers in Romance languages, not only with gender agreement, so I appreciate that I had to do it. It is not completely useless. Well, I appreciate the first four years of it.
Frank


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Bugs:?Son m?s grandes, mejores y m?s incre?bles que nunca. En la exhibici?n "Bugs" todo gira en torno al vuelo de precisi?n, la inteligencia en grupo y el control mental. ?Descubre lo genios que son!




-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Mike Sadka via Taxacom
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 8:14 AM
To: Taxacom Mailinglist <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: demystifying gender agreement ( was Re: Removals of offending scientific names)

You know me George - and I WAS taught Latin (badly) at school - albeit very badly and a long time ago at a very poor but pretentious private school!

I may be the exception that proves your rule, however...



-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of George Beccaloni via Taxacom
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 12:40 AM
To: Dochterland <dochterland at telenet.be>
Cc: Taxacom Mailinglist <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: demystifying gender agreement ( was Re: Removals of offending scientific names)

Sorry, but it isn't widely taught any more. Very few people in the world as a whole are taught Latin! I wasn't, and in fact no one I know was. In the Victorian times in the UK everyone was taught it, but that died out a very, very long time ago. It really isn't useful or relevant in the modern world.

George

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On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 at 00:27, Dochterland <dochterland at telenet.be> wrote:

> Because Latin is not only a language, but also a system. A system that 
> allows one to classify and interconnect things easily, once one knows 
> the rules. That is why Latin is still tought widely. It is a way of 
> thinking, maybe even a way of life, like riding a Harley Davidson.
>
> Op 26 jun. 2023, om 01:21 heeft George Beccaloni 
> <g.beccaloni at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Well, that's a really weird argument! So you remember part of the 
> species-group name, and then determine the ending based on the gender 
> of the genus name! Why not just remember the entire species-group name 
> to begin with - the original published name!
>
> George
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> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 at 00:01, Frank T. Krell <Frank.Krell at dmns.org> wrote:
>
>> Gender agreement serves the purpose that you don't have to memorize 
>> every single combination, every single ending. The genus determines 
>> the ending of the specific name if it is an adjective (, which are 
>> many or most). No memorizing of original spellings necessary. Easy and time-saving.
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell
>>
>> Senior Curator of Entomology, Editor-in-Chief Commissioner and 
>> Councillor, International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature 
>> Department of Zoology Denver Museum of Nature & Science
>> 2001 Colorado Blvd
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>> Bugs: They?re bigger, they?re better, they?re buggier than ever! It?s 
>> all about precision flight, swarm intelligence and mind control in 
>> the world of ?Bugs," the exhibition. Marvel at their adaptive genius 
>> and see if you can match their brilliance.
>>
>>
>> Bugs: Son m?s grandes, mejores y m?s incre?bles que nunca. En la 
>> exhibici?n "Bugs" todo gira en torno al vuelo de precisi?n, la 
>> inteligencia en grupo y el control mental. ?Descubre lo genios que son!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of George 
>> Beccaloni via Taxacom
>> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2023 4:43 PM
>> To: Dochterland <dochterland at telenet.be>
>> Cc: Taxacom Mailinglist <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
>> Subject: Re: Taxacom: demystifying gender agreement ( was Re:
>> Removals of offending scientific names)
>>
>> The main point is that it serves no useful purpose, yet is an effort 
>> to do.
>> Why do it then? Do you like expending effort unnecessarily? As others 
>> have pointed out, it is not as simple as you make it out to be anyway.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> George
>>
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>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 23:37, Dochterland <dochterland at telenet.be> wrote:
>>
>> > I couldn?t agree with you more, Martin. But then I have been raised 
>> > by the jesuits?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Jan
>> >
>> > Op 26 jun. 2023, om 00:33 heeft Martin Fik??ek <mfikacek at gmail.com> 
>> > het volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> > Well, gender agreement in Latin is not complex and has clear rules.
>> > No idea why that means it is burden or antique. We need to learn 
>> > rules how to use things in every step of our research. When coding 
>> > in R doing analyses, I need to learn basic rules how the sy tax 
>> > work. When doing DNA research we need to learn many extremely 
>> > complex rules of how DNA works and how it's analyses work. When 
>> > speaking any language other then my mother tongue, I need to learn 
>> > rules to make my text clear ... even now when writing in English, I 
>> > follow tons of simple rules I had to learn. So why learning the 
>> > fact that there are three genders and corresponding three endings 
>> > of adjectives should be so hard? It's simpler than R, it's simpler 
>> > then DNA, it's simpler than all statistics and analyses I ever 
>> > learned. Would your argument be thar it makes databasing hard, I 
>> > would consider it. But just saying it is burden and antique is no 
>> > reason - just an effort to write something
>> or personal laziness.
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023, 06:14 George Beccaloni via Taxacom < 
>> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Given that English doesn't have gender agreement, I find it 
>> >> confusing
>> too.
>> >> Given that English is now the language of science and many 
>> >> taxonomists whose first language isn't English, are 'forced' to 
>> >> publish in English, it seems ridiculous that they also have to 
>> >> understand gender agreement just for the purposes of nomenclature.
>> >> They have to first go to the trouble of writing in English, and 
>> >> then have another hurdle to jump - one which serves no practical 
>> >> purpose whatsoever! Gender agreement of scientific names is a 
>> >> antiquated, useless and burdensome!
>> >>
>> >> George
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> *Director, Alfred Russel Wallace Correspondence Project*
>> >>
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>> >> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 22:25, Dochterland via Taxacom < 
>> >> taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Dear Stephen,
>> >> >
>> >> > It depends on the level you want to achieve in a language. If 
>> >> > you want
>> >> to
>> >> > read Horace prima vista then Latin is complex and confusing indeed.
>> >> > But
>> >> to
>> >> > attribute the correct gender to an adjective in a scientific 
>> >> > name is
>> >> very
>> >> > basic and simple indeed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jan
>> >> >
>> >> > > Op 25 jun. 2023, om 23:17 heeft Stephen Thorpe <
>> >> > stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz> het volgende geschreven:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Dochterland,
>> >> > > A baby can learn to speak Chinese in a few months, but it is 
>> >> > > still
>> >> > complex and confusing to me!
>> >> > > Stephen
>> >> > > On Monday, 26 June 2023 at 09:08:05 am NZST, Dochterland via 
>> >> > > Taxacom <
>> >> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Dear all,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I would like to add that gender agreement in classical 
>> >> > > languages is
>> >> not
>> >> > ?complex? or ?confusing?. A twelve year old can master it in a 
>> >> > few
>> >> months
>> >> > time.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Cheers,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Jan
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Op 25 jun. 2023, om 23:02 heeft Francisco Welter-Schultes 
>> >> > > > via
>> >> Taxacom <
>> >> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> het volgende
>> >> > geschreven:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Dear Jean-Michel,
>> >> > > > These are not gender issues, but spelling issues. Their 
>> >> > > > regulations
>> >> > would remain untouched as they are now.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Francisco
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Am 25.06.2023 um 18:20 schrieb Jean Michel Maes via Taxacom:
>> >> > > >> If we go back to the gender of the original publication , 
>> >> > > >> to get
>> >> only
>> >> > one
>> >> > > >> label for each species, what did we do with capitals 
>> >> > > >> (Deyrollei),
>> >> "-"
>> >> > > >> (Wentzell-Heckmannae) or special characters ?
>> >> > > >> JM
>> >> > > >> Dr. Jean-Michel Maes
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>> >> > > >> Tel.: (505) 2319-9327
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>> >> > > >> Pronto el correo jmmaes at ibw.com.ni 
>> >> > > >> <mailto:jmmaes at ibw.com.ni>
>> >> > <mailto:jmmaes at ibw.com.ni> dejara de funcionar.
>> >> > > >> -----Mensaje original-----
>> >> > > >> De: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu <mailto:
>> >> > taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu>] En nombre de George
>> >> > > >> Beccaloni via Taxacom
>> >> > > >> Enviado el: viernes, 23 de junio de 2023 10:43
>> >> > > >> Para: Douglas Yanega
>> >> > > >> CC: taxacom at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu> <mailto:
>> >> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
>> >> > > >> Asunto: Re: Taxacom: demystifying gender agreement ( was Re:
>> >> Removals
>> >> > of
>> >> > > >> offending scientific names) If species names are just 
>> >> > > >> labels/unique identifiers, and the
>> >> original
>> >> > > >> published name is the most important, and gender agreement 
>> >> > > >> is
>> >> complex
>> >> > to get
>> >> > > >> right and is confusing to amateurs etc, and making a 
>> >> > > >> massive list
>> >> of
>> >> > all
>> >> > > >> names will be costly and difficult, and gender agreement is 
>> >> > > >> an
>> >> > outdated
>> >> > > >> practise from a previous era, and gender agreement might 
>> >> > > >> not be
>> >> > regarded as
>> >> > > >> 'inclusive' in this day and age, then its seems like a 
>> >> > > >> jolly good
>> >> > idea to
>> >> > > >> get rid of it and revert to the original published names!
>> >> > > >> George
>> >> > > >>
>> >> >
>> >> ******************************************************************
>> >> ***
>> >> *******
>> >> > > >> *Dr George Beccaloni FLS*
>> >> > > >> *Director, Alfred Russel Wallace Correspondence Project* 
>> >> > > >> Wallace Correspondence Project:
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>> >> > > >> ResearchGate:
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>> >> > > >>
>> >> >
>> >> ******************************************************************
>> >> ***
>> >> *******
>> >> > > >> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 at 17:30, Douglas Yanega via Taxacom < 
>> >> > > >> taxacom at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu> <mailto:
>> >> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
>> >> > > >>> On 6/22/23 8:37 PM, John Grehan wrote:
>> >> > > >>>> I am not as acquainted with all the experts out there 
>> >> > > >>>> that have commented on this issue, but for the World 
>> >> > > >>>> Catalogue of
>> >> Hepialidae
>> >> > > >>>> (hopefully published within a week or two at most) the 
>> >> > > >>>> authors followed a precedent set by some past major 
>> >> > > >>>> players in hepialid taxonomy and used the original form 
>> >> > > >>>> of the species name,
>> >> regardless
>> >> > > >>>> of whether correct in the first place, or now in a genus 
>> >> > > >>>> with a different gender. Keeps life simple, and as far as 
>> >> > > >>>> I am
>> >> concerned,
>> >> > > >>>> quite comprehensible.
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> In principle, that could be true - about it keeping things 
>> >> > > >>> simple
>> >> -
>> >> > > >>> but in practice, it does not seem to work that way.
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> The principle relies on all lepidopterists, and all other
>> >> taxonomists
>> >> > > >>> using lepidopteran names, having access to a single 
>> >> > > >>> authoritative master list of names (otherwise, people 
>> >> > > >>> would need to each have
>> >> > access
>> >> > > >>> to copies of the original literature). In practice, there 
>> >> > > >>> are
>> >> LOTS of
>> >> > > >>> different sources for lep names, and they are very 
>> >> > > >>> commonly in conflict with one another, here and there. The 
>> >> > > >>> same species can
>> >> have
>> >> > > >>> two different spellings scattered throughout the 
>> >> > > >>> literature, as
>> >> well
>> >> > > >>> as online sources, and that is not "keeping it simple".
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> The very first butterfly name I looked up just now - a 
>> >> > > >>> butterfly I learned as "Mitoura gryneus" several decades 
>> >> > > >>> ago
>> >> > > >>> - is one that
>> >> stuck
>> >> > > >>> in my head as a budding entomologist because it was the 
>> >> > > >>> very first time in my life I had learned a scientific name 
>> >> > > >>> that was
>> >> explained to
>> >> > > >>> me as being a gender mismatch, and when I first learned 
>> >> > > >>> that lepidopterists didn't use gender agreement. The 
>> >> > > >>> noteworthy thing
>> >> > about
>> >> > > >>> it is that if you do a verbatim Google search, you can 
>> >> > > >>> find
>> >> hundreds
>> >> > > >>> of sources that have "Mitoura gryneus", hundreds more that 
>> >> > > >>> have "Mitoura grynea", hundreds more that have "Callophrys 
>> >> > > >>> gryneus",
>> >> and
>> >> > > >>> hundreds more that have "Callophrys grynea".
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> That does not at all look simple to me, and *that's just 
>> >> > > >>> the first name I looked up*. I'm willing to wager that if 
>> >> > > >>> there are other
>> >> > common
>> >> > > >>> leps with obvious gender mismatches, that they'll have a 
>> >> > > >>> very high probability of appearing in the literature with 
>> >> > > >>> multiple
>> >> conflicting
>> >> > > >>> spellings.
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> This exemplifies EXACTLY why I advocate for a single 
>> >> > > >>> authoritative master list. No system of gender agreement, 
>> >> > > >>> even ZERO gender agreement, is going to ensure that 
>> >> > > >>> everyone, everywhere, is on the same page unless there is 
>> >> > > >>> a single shared resource that everyone
>> >> uses
>> >> > > >>> to obtain the proper spelling. When everyone does their 
>> >> > > >>> own independent research, people can come to different 
>> >> > > >>> conclusions, leading to inconsistency. If the master list 
>> >> > > >>> gives the spelling variants, *and tells you when to use 
>> >> > > >>> which variant*, then there
>> >> is no
>> >> > > >> reason not to keep gender agreement.
>> >> > > >>> Both approaches - keeping gender agreement or abandoning 
>> >> > > >>> it - at
>> >> > > >>> *that* point would require exactly the same amount of effort:
>> >> typing
>> >> > a
>> >> > > >>> name into a search engine linked to a list, and following 
>> >> > > >>> the
>> >> result.
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> It's called "having our cake and eating it too".
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> Peace,
>> >> > > >>>
>> >> > > >>> --
>> >> > > >>> Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology      Entomology Research
>> >> Museum
>> >> > > >>> Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314    skype: dyanega
>> >> > > >>> phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not
>> UCR's)
>> >> > > >>>
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>> >> > > >>>    "There are some enterprises in which a careful
>> disorderliness
>> >> > > >>>          is the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick,
>> Chap.
>> >> 82
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>> >> > > >> rwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0 <
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0> <
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0 <
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0>>
>> >> > > >> You can reach the person managing the list at:
>> >> > taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu>
>> <mailto:
>> >> > taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu>
>> >> > > >> The Taxacom email archive back to 1992 can be searched at:
>> >> > > >> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%25252&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0c3zvLf1YVfPg1AncquXl7rWFiGaPugAI2MWXFdqjeU%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > > >> 53
>> >> > > >> A%2F%2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > > >> nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78
>> >> > > >> 437fa0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown
>> >> > > >> %7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>> >> > > >> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUs
>> >> > > >> ry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9Ow%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > > >> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nTSSiAadIrq0SotCuSmuX4honBSt5W%2FmRQ57c6bbto4%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > > >> 25
>> >> > > >> 3A%2F%2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%4
>> >> > > >> 0nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e7
>> >> > > >> 8437fa0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknow
>> >> > > >> n%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
>> >> > > >> 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylU
>> >> > > >> sry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9Ow%3D&reserved=0>
>> >> > > >> <
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25 
>> >> > 2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk%
>> >> > 7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e1
>> >> > 960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI
>> >> > joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C
>> >> > 3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9O
>> >> > w%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=us1UgjRPT6Lv8U1C6hZHjFvzPqwESbiFMJYuaA2IgUw%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > %2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk
>> >> > %7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e
>> >> > 1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJW
>> >> > IjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7
>> >> > C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9
>> >> > Ow%3D&reserved=0>>
>> >> > > >> Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity and admiring
>> >> alliteration
>> >> > for
>> >> > > >> about 36 years, 1987-2023.
>> >> > > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > > Taxacom Mailing List
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Send Taxacom mailing list submissions to:
>> >> > > > taxacom at lists.ku.edu
>> >> > <mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu> <mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
>> >> > > > For list information; to subscribe or unsubscribe, visit:
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0 <
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0> <
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0 <
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0>>
>> >> > > > You can reach the person managing the list at:
>> >> > taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu>
>> <mailto:
>> >> > taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > The Taxacom email archive back to 1992 can be searched at:
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25 
>> >> > 2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk%
>> >> > 7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e1
>> >> > 960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI
>> >> > joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C
>> >> > 3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9O
>> >> > w%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=us1UgjRPT6Lv8U1C6hZHjFvzPqwESbiFMJYuaA2IgUw%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > %2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk
>> >> > %7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e
>> >> > 1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJW
>> >> > IjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7
>> >> > C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9
>> >> > Ow%3D&reserved=0> <
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25 
>> >> > 2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk%
>> >> > 7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e1
>> >> > 960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI
>> >> > joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C
>> >> > 3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9O
>> >> > w%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=us1UgjRPT6Lv8U1C6hZHjFvzPqwESbiFMJYuaA2IgUw%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > %2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk
>> >> > %7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e
>> >> > 1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJW
>> >> > IjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7
>> >> > C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9
>> >> > Ow%3D&reserved=0>>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity and admiring 
>> >> > > > alliteration
>> >> > for about 36 years, 1987-2023.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > Taxacom Mailing List
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Send Taxacom mailing list submissions to: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
>> >> <mailto:
>> >> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
>> >> > > For list information; to subscribe or unsubscribe, visit:
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0 <
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0>
>> >> > > You can reach the person managing the list at:
>> >> > taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu>
>> >> > > The Taxacom email archive back to 1992 can be searched at:
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25 
>> >> > 2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk%
>> >> > 7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e1
>> >> > 960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI
>> >> > joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C
>> >> > 3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9O
>> >> > w%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=us1UgjRPT6Lv8U1C6hZHjFvzPqwESbiFMJYuaA2IgUw%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > %2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk
>> >> > %7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e
>> >> > 1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJW
>> >> > IjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7
>> >> > C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9
>> >> > Ow%3D&reserved=0>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity and admiring 
>> >> > > alliteration
>> >> for
>> >> > about 36 years, 1987-2023.
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Taxacom Mailing List
>> >> >
>> >> > Send Taxacom mailing list submissions to: taxacom at lists.ku.edu 
>> >> > For list information; to subscribe or unsubscribe, visit:
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25
>> >> > 2Flists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40
>> >> > nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa
>> >> > 0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZ
>> >> > sb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
>> >> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2
>> >> > c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0 You can reach the person managing the 
>> >> > list at:
>> >> taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu
>> >> > The Taxacom email archive back to 1992 can be searched at:
>> >> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%2525&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kDc8yStuQ14sbjBcL3MgaSH7K%2FoeVlqVEY2vkhW6Pns%3D&reserved=0
>> >> > 25 
>> >> > 2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk%
>> >> > 7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e1
>> >> > 960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI
>> >> > joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C
>> >> > 3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9O
>> >> > w%3D&reserved=0
>> >> >
>> >> > Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity and admiring 
>> >> > alliteration for about 36 years, 1987-2023.
>> >> >
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Taxacom Mailing List
>> >>
>> >> Send Taxacom mailing list submissions to: taxacom at lists.ku.edu For 
>> >> list information; to subscribe or unsubscribe, visit:
>> >> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=e%2BYJedKHQjlvlX8uA5S8JTxA5Quos%2BaPwku2dpvuKy4%3D&reserved=0
>> >> lists.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.
>> >> ac.uk%7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c85
>> >> 53e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ
>> >> WIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C
>> >> 3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2c1yvaeDoc%3D
>> >> &reserved=0 You can reach the person managing the list at:
>> >> taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu The Taxacom email archive back to 1992 
>> >> can
>> be searched at:
>> >> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C3efff56aea284c9cab5f08db7650e51a%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638233862062160315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=e%2BYJedKHQjlvlX8uA5S8JTxA5Quos%2BaPwku2dpvuKy4%3D&reserved=0
>> >> taxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk%7Cef
>> >> f268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e1960c1%
>> >> 7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL
>> >> jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C
>> >> %7C&sdata=xbEe7NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9Ow%3D&reserve
>> >> d=0
>> >>
>> >> Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity and admiring 
>> >> alliteration for about 36 years, 1987-2023.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Taxacom Mailing List
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>> list information; to subscribe or unsubscribe, visit:
>> https://lis/
>> ts.ku.edu%2Flistinfo%2Ftaxacom&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk%
>> 7Ceff268c0f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e1960c1
>> %7C1%7C0%7C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjA
>> wMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&s
>> data=t0Htrwwg34Yf5nYoa98UyyWnsVLNFZGPL2c1yvaeDoc%3D&reserved=0
>> You can reach the person managing the list at:
>> taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu The Taxacom email archive back to 1992 can be searched at:
>> https://tax/
>> acom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmike.sadka%40nhm.ac.uk%7Ceff268c0
>> f0504b68e8ec08db75d59ac5%7C73a29c014e78437fa0d4c8553e1960c1%7C1%7C0%7
>> C638233332855666749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQI
>> joiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xbEe7
>> NqikBylUsry5tOkAdhwUo58Z7Y5gdu%2BwAmU9Ow%3D&reserved=0
>>
>> Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity and admiring alliteration 
>> for about 36 years, 1987-2023.
>>
>
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