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David Campbell pleuronaia at gmail.com
Mon Jul 31 19:02:14 CDT 2023 

A particular challenge for taxonomy and the "impact factor"-type
calculations is that the factors assume a short lifespan of relevance,
rather than being cited at a lower but relatively steady rate for a long
time, which is more typical of taxonomy.  More generally, different types
of articles have different patterns and frequencies of citation, which is
not taken into consideration.

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On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 6:36 PM Stephen Thorpe via Taxacom <
taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:

>
> I can't believe it has taken you guys so long to react to the Open Access
> Scam, which I have posted about here on Taxacom for years! There are two
> main factors involved. You have touched on the one to do with impact
> factor. Trying to include taxonomy into the broad area of impact factor
> metrics is entirely inappropriate. It leads to all sorts of problems, such
> as naming species after celebrities so as to generate publicity. The
> reality is that very few readers will be immediately interested in any one
> taxonomic article, but it is nevertheless a very valuable part of a much
> larger whole. You can build a very interesting house out of bricks, despite
> the fact that each individual brick is of low interest to anyone!
> The other factor with Open Access is to do with the strategic spending of
> external funding, by corporate research entities. Remember that they are
> spending other people's money, if it is external funding and the economics
> of spending other people's money is very different to the economics of
> spending one's own money. I can elaborate if anyone is interested.
> Stephen    On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 09:19:34 am NZST, John Grehan via
> Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
>
>  I will back up Lynn's comments, especially with respect to ZooNova
> (excellent outlet). I have also seen how 'newsletters' of some
> organizations (NZ Ent Soc, Lepidopterist Society) generate 'publications'
> that are just as good as any commercial product, and yet cost author's
> nothing. Sadly, I have at least one colleague with whom I collaborate ask
> that we publish co-authored papers in journals with 'high' indices because
> that is required of the 'employer' to help keep their job. It's a racket
> for sure.
>
> John Grehan
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 4:52 PM Lynn Raw via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> >
> wrote:
>
> > In the article they say that quality publishing is expensive. That is
> only
> > the case with paper publishing. Open Access is by its very nature an
> online
> > only digital format far less expensive to provide than the older print
> > journals and with no extra costs for colour. It seems the whole process
> of
> > using citation and other indices rather than the actual quality of the
> > content is a commercial profit driven hoax promoted by the publishers for
> > the benefit of their executives and shareholders. It also gives
> university
> > administrators numbers that they can understand whether or not they have
> > any idea of the content. Even the highly esteemed Nature sometimes
> > publishes suspect papers. Open access is the ideal low cost publishing
> > system for societies as the only cost lies in the website maintenance and
> > development, web server operation and maintenance of the domain
> > registration.
> > At the moment I am running a small scale OA journal at NO COST to the
> > authors so the model can operate with the right support and volunteers
> > whatever argument is given against it. Obviously it is not a commercial
> for
> > profit model but it is something that can meet a need for both authors
> and
> > users of scientific articles.
> >
> > Lynn Raw
> > Independent Researcher & Editor
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 31 Jul 2023, at 21.15, Michael Heads via Taxacom <
> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've criticised the new 'Open Access' publishing model for journals as
> a
> > > scam, and here's a new article in J. Biogeogr. against it (note that it
> > > doesn't mention publishing scientists who are amateur or retired):
> > >
> > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fonlinelibrary.wiley.com%2Fdoi%2F10.1111%2Fjbi.14697&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C7c50fbf1741f4680503708db92229849%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638264452680818174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nkKG7OOBegwKZkJFXqGt01XcidcSOmswmETpOGrONtI%3D&reserved=0
> > > 'Shifts to open access with high article processing charges hinder
> > research
> > > equity and careers'
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dunedin, New Zealand.
> > >
> > > My books:
> > >
> > > *Biogeography and evolution in New Zealand. *Taylor and Francis/CRC,
> Boca
> > > Raton FL. 2017.
> > >
> >
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.routledge.com%2FBiogeography-and-Evolution-in-New-Zealand%2FHeads%2Fp%2Fbook%2F9781498751872&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C7c50fbf1741f4680503708db92229849%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638264452680818174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=cNsUSmgKxM%2Fd2oZkeKij44%2BppgHpEFvq5kFyfDcaMpo%3D&reserved=0
> > >
> > >
> > > *Biogeography of Australasia:  A molecular analysis*. Cambridge
> > University
> > > Press, Cambridge. 2014. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambridge.org%2F9781107041028&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C7c50fbf1741f4680503708db92229849%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638264452680818174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t4gwcK9Po5mR8yTdAEZyh8ID5izlPwHNeLcRuJwim9w%3D&reserved=0
> > >
> > >
> > > *Molecular panbiogeography of the tropics. *University of California
> > Press,
> > > Berkeley. 2012. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ucpress.edu%2Fbook.php%3Fisbn%3D9780520271968&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C7c50fbf1741f4680503708db92229849%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638264452680818174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=8obJG4CbXYzxtN5PIJk%2BCHLHEPj1vGwnsvX9TsmCheY%3D&reserved=0
> > >
> > >
> > > *Panbiogeography: Tracking the history of life*. Oxford University
> Press,
> > > New York. 1999. (With R. Craw and J. Grehan).
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