Taxacom: open access journals

Mon Jul 31 16:18:36 CDT 2023

I will back up Lynn's comments, especially with respect to ZooNova
(excellent outlet). I have also seen how 'newsletters' of some
organizations (NZ Ent Soc, Lepidopterist Society) generate 'publications'
that are just as good as any commercial product, and yet cost author's
nothing. Sadly, I have at least one colleague with whom I collaborate ask
that we publish co-authored papers in journals with 'high' indices because
that is required of the 'employer' to help keep their job. It's a racket
for sure.

John Grehan

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 4:52 PM Lynn Raw via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
wrote:

> In the article they say that quality publishing is expensive. That is only
> the case with paper publishing. Open Access is by its very nature an online
> only digital format far less expensive to provide than the older print
> journals and with no extra costs for colour. It seems the whole process of
> using citation and other indices rather than the actual quality of the
> content is a commercial profit driven hoax promoted by the publishers for
> the benefit of their executives and shareholders. It also gives university
> administrators numbers that they can understand whether or not they have
> any idea of the content. Even the highly esteemed Nature sometimes
> publishes suspect papers. Open access is the ideal low cost publishing
> system for societies as the only cost lies in the website maintenance and
> development, web server operation and maintenance of the domain
> registration.
> At the moment I am running a small scale OA journal at NO COST to the
> authors so the model can operate with the right support and volunteers
> whatever argument is given against it. Obviously it is not a commercial for
> profit model but it is something that can meet a need for both authors and
> users of scientific articles.
>
> Lynn Raw
> Independent Researcher & Editor
>
>
>
> > On 31 Jul 2023, at 21.15, Michael Heads via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
> >
> > I've criticised the new 'Open Access' publishing model for journals as a
> > scam, and here's a new article in J. Biogeogr. against it (note that it
> > doesn't mention publishing scientists who are amateur or retired):
> >
> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fonlinelibrary.wiley.com%2Fdoi%2F10.1111%2Fjbi.14697&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C580322181592487bc33208db920bca81%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638264351613463924%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=uaYq7agOrUZa6cwkrwTifDxHK4o3vHWVA%2BZmQq5klgw%3D&reserved=0
> > 'Shifts to open access with high article processing charges hinder
> research
> > equity and careers'
> >
> > --
> > Dunedin, New Zealand.
> >
> > My books:
> >
> > *Biogeography and evolution in New Zealand. *Taylor and Francis/CRC, Boca
> > Raton FL. 2017.
> >
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.routledge.com%2FBiogeography-and-Evolution-in-New-Zealand%2FHeads%2Fp%2Fbook%2F9781498751872&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C580322181592487bc33208db920bca81%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638264351613463924%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=iUW%2BQVLnTBrpxNEDLbBsNYZvTSZsKRYoYOF7hZrQgSQ%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >
> > *Biogeography of Australasia:  A molecular analysis*. Cambridge
> University
> > Press, Cambridge. 2014. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambridge.org%2F9781107041028&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C580322181592487bc33208db920bca81%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638264351613463924%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2mFGzEjTjep%2F5dam7Q0nz5j392Sqe9gSk1KRhkWQk6Q%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >
> > *Molecular panbiogeography of the tropics. *University of California
> Press,
> > Berkeley. 2012. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ucpress.edu%2Fbook.php%3Fisbn%3D9780520271968&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C580322181592487bc33208db920bca81%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638264351613463924%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Qp3N0zKnrhcbDAsUKZ2txsciVoQNCLaRV397AGrsXWM%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >
> > *Panbiogeography: Tracking the history of life*. Oxford University Press,
> > New York. 1999. (With R. Craw and J. Grehan).
> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.co.nz%2Fbooks%3Fid%3DBm0_QQ3Z6GUC&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C580322181592487bc33208db920bca81%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638264351613463924%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=7BSeQoews0mwQu1cGRPzEa5XajJsWqyxLHX7Q7snRIk%3D&reserved=0
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