Taxacom: Order Anura - correct authorship?

Wed Feb 22 15:08:49 CST 2023

 Tony said "I realise that the ICZN Code does not regulate names and/or cited?authorships above the rank of family (or more correctly, family-group),?however I was wondering whether anyone can assist me with the "best" i.e.?most correct authorship for the amphibian order Anura."
I say: There is no "correct" authorship, precisely because it is not regulated by the ICZN Code. There are bibliographic facts about where and when the name appeared, but these facts have no relevance to taxonomy or nomenclature. Priority does not apply. I do hate it when people fixate on irrelevant details!
Cheers, Stephen
    On Thursday, 23 February 2023 at 08:33:05 am NZDT, Neal Evenhuis via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:  

 Yep. The Dum?ril date is 15 November 1805. (noted in Bibliographie de la France [BF]). Also noticed again on 5 December 1805 by BF).

Neal L. Evenhuis
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On Stardate 2/22/23, 9:13 AM, "Taxacom" <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> wrote:

For what it is worth, the only Dum?ril reference given in the 2020 Bubois
paper is

Dum?ril, A. M. C. (1805) *Zoologie analytique, ou m?thode naturelle de
classification des animaux, rendue plus facile ? l?aide de tableaux
synoptiques*. Paris (Allais), ?1806?: i?xxxiii + 1?544. <
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Maybe the known publication date has been adjusted backwards from 1806 to
1805, I'm not sure.

- Tony

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 at 06:09, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Taxacomers,
>
> I realise that the ICZN Code does not regulate names and/or cited
> authorships above the rank of family (or more correctly, family-group),
> however I was wondering whether anyone can assist me with the "best" i.e.
> most correct authorship for the amphibian order Anura (frogs). E.g.
> Wikipedia currently gives "Order Anura Dum?ril, 1806 (as Anoures)", and
> many other published sources also give Dum?ril, 1806 as the authority, as
> does Dubois in 2004 in this work "The higher nomenclature of recent
> amphibians", Alytes, 2004, 22 (1-2): 1-14.
>
> However later, Dubois appears to use Dum?ril, 1805 in this work: DUBOIS,
> A., & FR?TEY, T. (2020). Herpetological higher taxa nomina 2. Anura
> Dum?ril, 1805. Bionomina, 20(1), 1-16 (not open access, I have only seen
> the title and abstract).
>
> Meanwhile Wikispecies presently follows Blackburn & Wake, 2011, Class
> Amphibia Gray, 1825. Pp 39?55 In Zhang, Z.-Q. (ed.) 2011. Animal
> biodiversity: an outline of higher-level classification and survey of
> taxonomic richness. Zootaxa 3148: 1?237, who cite the order as Anura
> Fischer von Waldheim, 1813, without any mention of? Dum?ril, so far as I
> can see.
>
> ITIS appears to give no authorship for Anura, neither does the AMNH
> "Amphibian Species of the World" database.
>
> Any thoughts, recommendations?
>
> Thanks in advance - Tony
>
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
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