Taxacom: Renaming taxa on ethical grounds - Peter Uetz, his "the reptile database" and the Russian papers he deleted (over 1000 of them)

[Peter Uetz]

Ray, the Russian papers have been back online since late March 2022, hence it was not a ?permanent removal?, unless the word ?permanent? means ?3 weeks? in Hoserian English. The posts you cite as ?evidence? intentionally (!) did not say anything about duration. However, they did say ?this release? and ?temporarily? which objectively is not the same as ?permanent".

Let me repeat it: our temporary (!) removal of Russian papers was an act of protest and not an act of censorship. Look up the two words on Wikipedia.
I won?t respond to any further Hoser rant on this topic.

Peter



> On Feb 1, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Raymond Hoser - The Snakeman <viper007 at live.com.au> wrote:
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> Just to set the record straight (again), 
> 
> Peter Uetz DID eraze all the Russian names from his "Reptile Database" and this was a permanent removal!
> It was only after his own best mates, including the notorious Wolfgang Wuster complained that he recanted his mistake and put them back on his allegedly complete database.
> Uetz has since tried to rewrite history by claiming his ban had only intended to be temporary all along.
> Just so we know that it was not intended to be temporary, I hereby post a copy of his original posting to others, which fortunately I screen shotted at the time (via Google's cache), as for obvious reasons he has tried to eraze this as well from the historical record, with his amended version since posted on the same page, thereby overwriting the older now unavailable one.
> I have also attached some of the howls of protest from his mates including Wuster, who on this rare occasion was correct.
> But of course they continue to rename things for any excuse they can muster!
> 
> PS In science (as shown here) Raymond Hoser relies on evidence, while Uetz et al. fabricate their own!
> 
> All the best
> 
> Raymond Hoser
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu>> on behalf of Peter Uetz via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>>
> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2023 2:47 AM
> To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Renaming taxa on ethical grounds -- Hoser and the Russian papers
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> Just to set the record straight: the Reptile Database has not "erased over 1000 names ? proposed by Russians? (I doubt Russians have proposed that many names in the first place). However, it is correct that we did remove about 1000 papers by Russian authors for about 2 weeks in March 2022, in protest of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This was meant to be a reminder that we all share some responsibility for the actions of our governments. Maybe the temporary  (!) removal wasn?t a good decision, but certainly not as bad as the decision to invade a country and kill tens of thousands of people (on both sides of the war, of course).
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> > Em ter., 31 de jan. de 2023 ?s 20:40, Raymond Hoser - The Snakeman <viper007 at live.com.au <mailto:viper007 at live.com.au>> escreveu:
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> > Scott Thomson, 
> > 
> > [?] I assume this also means you will now renounce your support for Wuster, Kaiser and Peter Uetz ERAZING over 1000 names from their allegedly complete "Reptile Database" last year because they had been proposed by Russians.  [?]
> > YOURS FAITHFULLY
> > RAYMOND HOSER
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> Peter Uetz
> Center for Biological Data Science
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> Richmond, VA 23284
> USA
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