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Taxacom: Taxacom Digest, Vol 197, Issue 4

Alain Dubois adbionomina at gmail.com
Sun Sep 4 02:10:07 CDT 2022 

Dear Colleagues,

The problems regarding electronic publication of new nomina and
nomenclatural acts are discussed in detail in the following recent paper,
which provides precise proposals aiming at solving the problems raised by
the 2012 Amendment in its current writing:

https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F362909666_Article_The_Linz_Zoocode_project_Fifth_report_of_activities_2022_Nomenclatural_availability_4_Electronic_publication&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594546939%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nn9lSDR65w2CYUnm7fnfCBLBnrbWi2DXp%2BoY0FU%2FddA%3D&reserved=0

Note that the concept of "version of record" is absent in the Code and
cannot be used to establish whether a work, a nomen or a nomenclatural act
are nomenclaturally available. For this purpose, only the criteria listed
in the Code can be used.

Best wishes,

Alain
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“La culture ce n’est pas avoir le cerveau farci de dates, de noms ou de
chiffres, c’est la qualité du jugement, l’exigence logique, l’appétit de la
preuve, la notion de la complexité des choses et de l’arduité des
problèmes. C’est l’habitude du doute, le discernement dans la méfiance, la
modestie d’opinion, la patience d’ignorer, la certitude qu’on n’a jamais
tout le vrai en partage; c’est avoir l’esprit ferme sans l’avoir rigide,
c’est être armé contre le flou et aussi contre la fausse précision, c’est
refuser tous les fanatismes et jusqu’à ceux qui s’autorisent de la raison;
c’est suspecter les dogmatismes officiels mais sans profit pour les
charlatans, c’est révérer le génie mais sans en faire une idole, c’est
toujours préférer ce qui est à ce qu’on préférerait qui fût.”
(Jean Rostand, Le droit d’être naturaliste, 1963).
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Alain Dubois.* Jean** Rostand, un biologiste contre le nucléaire.* Berg
international, 2012.

Alain Dubois & Annemarie Ohler. *Evolution, extinctions: le message des
grenouilles.* Le Pommier, 2010.
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> Dear Victor, with reference to the availability? of a new taxon name, only
> the date of publication or date of distribution of the physical publication
> can be accepted. Zoological names still have a requirement for a physical
> copy to be published and distributed. Therefore ePublications can be ignore
> with reference to the availability of a new taxon name kind regards,Nigel
> Marley, University of Plymouth,? UK
>
> Sent from Sky Yahoo Mail on Android
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>   On Sat, 3 Sept 2022 at 18:00, taxacom-request at lists.ku.edu<
> taxacom-request at lists.ku.edu> wrote:   Daily News from the Taxacom
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> ? 2. Dates of e-pubs ahead of print? (Fet, Victor)
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> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 17:15:02 +0000
> From: "Boyle, Bradley L - (bboyle)" <bboyle at arizona.edu>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Taxacom: Distribution maps associated with taxonomic
> ??? publications
> Message-ID: <CB3DF0E2-B6E5-42CD-ADA9-A517659A5F4A at email.arizona.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for sources of digitized vascular plant species distribution
> maps associated with monographs and other taxonomic publications. The maps
> will be used as expert estimates of species' distributions for comparison
> against species distribution models (SDMs) based on presence data from
> herbarium specimens. Specifically, we are interested in approximations of
> species' total distributions rather than dot maps of individual specimen
> localities. An example of such maps would be the distribution maps
> associated with the Henderson et al "Field guide to the palms of the
> Americas". The latter is a regional field guide rather than a monograph;
> however, the key attribute from our perspective is that it is produced by
> systematists who are experts in the taxa treated. Most of the maps we've
> been able to find so far are produced mostly by organizations with little
> oversight by taxonomic experts.
>
> I realize that compete range estimates are by nature speculative and
> rarely produced in association with monographs and other taxonomic
> revisions. Nonetheless, if such a thing exists for even a handful of taxa
> or regions, they would help us better understand the strengths and
> weaknesses of the SDMs we are producing.
>
> Thanks!
> Brad
>
> Brad Boyle, Ph.D.
> Researcher/Scientist IV
> Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
> The University of Arizona
> Tucson AZ 85712, USA
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 16:24:34 +0000
> From: "Fet, Victor" <fet at marshall.edu>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
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> A general question to whom it may concern:
>
> What is the official date of publication for a taxon name that is
> published in a 'e-pub ahead of print' but the journal has a print version
> (which will come later in time) and so does not feel obliged, and does not
> require the authors, to publish a Zoobank link?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Victor Fet
> Marshall University
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> From: Adam Cotton <thaibaggie at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Taxacom Digest, Vol 197, Issue 3
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> On 04/09/2022 00:17, nigel.marley--- via Taxacom wrote:
> > Dear Victor, with reference to the availability? of a new taxon name,
> only the date of publication or date of distribution of the physical
> publication can be accepted. Zoological names still have a requirement for
> a physical copy to be published and distributed. Therefore ePublications
> can be ignore with reference to the availability of a new taxon name kind
> regards,Nigel Marley, University of Plymouth,? UK
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
> That's not quite accurate ... the date of an e-publication is the valid
> date of publication IF the publication complies with the requirements of
> the 2012 amendment to the ICZN Code.
>
> In the case that Victor Fet outlined in his original question the
> amendment has apparently not been followed, and the date of publication
> is that of the printed copy.
>
> Adam.
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> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 17:30:51 +0000
> From: "Fet, Victor" <fet at marshall.edu>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>,
>         "taxacom-request at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom-request at lists.ku.edu>,
>         "nigel.marley at sky.com" <nigel.marley at sky.com>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Taxacom Digest, Vol 197, Issue 3
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> >>>ePublications can be ignored
>
> Dear Nigel:
>
> this may be not so simple.
> I have published an e-journal for 20 years (no physical copy), and we have
> been fully compatible with IZCN provisions:
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmds.marshall.edu%2Feuscorpius%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594703174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2B%2BJLkPr2a0K5jvSRlfsJUIugS2ieCwaR7j2O4LUVLew%3D&reserved=0
> Hundreds of new taxa we have published are fully available, as I hope.
>
>  In September 2012, ICZN Article 8. What constitutes published work, has
> been amended and allowed for electronic publications, disallowing
> publication on optical discs (CDs, which we had to comply with in
> 2001-2012). For further details on this ICZN amendment, see
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pensoft.net%2Fjournals%2Fzookeys%2Farticle%2F3944%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594703174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=d9O6hwoFMBDGiWXmeDIhrJG0hGeF3yYyspSLGgN7Gt0%3D&reserved=0
> .
> We are required to use Zoobank link by this amendment. So we do for theh
> last decade.
> So do many other e-only journals these days.
>
> However, my question refers to journals which DO have a physical copy and
> also (now nearly everyone) have an e-pub which comes online much earlier
> than the physical copy.
> They are not required to use Zoobank link.
> So if their e-pub does not list Zoobank links, names published in it are
> NOT available ?
>
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> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Taxacom Digest, Vol 197, Issue 3
>
> Dear Victor, with reference to the availability  of a new taxon name, only
> the date of publication or date of distribution of the physical publication
> can be accepted. Zoological names still have a requirement for a physical
> copy to be published and distributed. Therefore ePublications can be ignore
> with reference to the availability of a new taxon name kind regards,Nigel
> Marley, University of Plymouth,  UK
>
> Sent from Sky Yahoo Mail on Android
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>   On Sat, 3 Sept 2022 at 18:00, taxacom-request at lists.ku.edu<
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>   1. Distribution maps associated with taxonomic publications
>       (Boyle, Bradley L - (bboyle))
>   2. Dates of e-pubs ahead of print? (Fet, Victor)
>
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> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 17:15:02 +0000
> From: "Boyle, Bradley L - (bboyle)" <bboyle at arizona.edu>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Taxacom: Distribution maps associated with taxonomic
>     publications
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> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for sources of digitized vascular plant species distribution
> maps associated with monographs and other taxonomic publications. The maps
> will be used as expert estimates of species' distributions for comparison
> against species distribution models (SDMs) based on presence data from
> herbarium specimens. Specifically, we are interested in approximations of
> species' total distributions rather than dot maps of individual specimen
> localities. An example of such maps would be the distribution maps
> associated with the Henderson et al "Field guide to the palms of the
> Americas". The latter is a regional field guide rather than a monograph;
> however, the key attribute from our perspective is that it is produced by
> systematists who are experts in the taxa treated. Most of the maps we've
> been able to find so far are produced mostly by organizations with little
> oversight by taxonomic experts.
>
> I realize that compete range estimates are by nature speculative and
> rarely produced in association with monographs and other taxonomic
> revisions. Nonetheless, if such a thing exists for even a handful of taxa
> or regions, they would help us better understand the strengths and
> weaknesses of the SDMs we are producing.
>
> Thanks!
> Brad
>
> Brad Boyle, Ph.D.
> Researcher/Scientist IV
> Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
> The University of Arizona
> Tucson AZ 85712, USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 16:24:34 +0000
> From: "Fet, Victor" <fet at marshall.edu>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> A general question to whom it may concern:
>
> What is the official date of publication for a taxon name that is
> published in a 'e-pub ahead of print' but the journal has a print version
> (which will come later in time) and so does not feel obliged, and does not
> require the authors, to publish a Zoobank link?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Victor Fet
> Marshall University
>
>
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> Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity for about 35 years, 1987-2022.
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> Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity for about 35 years, 1987-2022.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 19:32:39 +0200
> From: lynn <lynn at afriherp.org>
> To: "nigel.marley at sky.com" <nigel.marley at sky.com>
> Cc: taxacom-request at lists.ku.edu, taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Taxacom Digest, Vol 197, Issue 3
> Message-ID: <F2F28547-4AC3-41CD-86D8-1E1ADF083307 at afriherp.org>
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> Actually this is not correct, following the establishment of ZooBank by
> the ICZN, electronic only publications are valid and available as long as
> they are registered on ZooBank and follow the requirements given in the
> Code.
> Lynn Raw
>
>
> > On 3 Sep 2022, at 19:17, nigel.marley--- via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
> >
> > ?Dear Victor, with reference to the availability  of a new taxon name,
> only the date of publication or date of distribution of the physical
> publication can be accepted. Zoological names still have a requirement for
> a physical copy to be published and distributed. Therefore ePublications
> can be ignore with reference to the availability of a new taxon name kind
> regards,Nigel Marley, University of Plymouth,  UK
> >
> > Sent from Sky Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> >  On Sat, 3 Sept 2022 at 18:00, taxacom-request at lists.ku.edu<
> taxacom-request at lists.ku.edu> wrote:   Daily News from the Taxacom
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> > When responding to a message, please do not copy the entire digest into
> your reply.
> > ____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >   1. Distribution maps associated with taxonomic publications
> >       (Boyle, Bradley L - (bboyle))
> >   2. Dates of e-pubs ahead of print? (Fet, Victor)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 17:15:02 +0000
> > From: "Boyle, Bradley L - (bboyle)" <bboyle at arizona.edu>
> > To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> > Subject: Taxacom: Distribution maps associated with taxonomic
> >     publications
> > Message-ID: <CB3DF0E2-B6E5-42CD-ADA9-A517659A5F4A at email.arizona.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am looking for sources of digitized vascular plant species
> distribution maps associated with monographs and other taxonomic
> publications. The maps will be used as expert estimates of species'
> distributions for comparison against species distribution models (SDMs)
> based on presence data from herbarium specimens. Specifically, we are
> interested in approximations of species' total distributions rather than
> dot maps of individual specimen localities. An example of such maps would
> be the distribution maps associated with the Henderson et al "Field guide
> to the palms of the Americas". The latter is a regional field guide rather
> than a monograph; however, the key attribute from our perspective is that
> it is produced by systematists who are experts in the taxa treated. Most of
> the maps we've been able to find so far are produced mostly by
> organizations with little oversight by taxonomic experts.
> >
> > I realize that compete range estimates are by nature speculative and
> rarely produced in association with monographs and other taxonomic
> revisions. Nonetheless, if such a thing exists for even a handful of taxa
> or regions, they would help us better understand the strengths and
> weaknesses of the SDMs we are producing.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Brad
> >
> > Brad Boyle, Ph.D.
> > Researcher/Scientist IV
> > Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
> > The University of Arizona
> > Tucson AZ 85712, USA
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 16:24:34 +0000
> > From: "Fet, Victor" <fet at marshall.edu>
> > To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> > Subject: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > A general question to whom it may concern:
> >
> > What is the official date of publication for a taxon name that is
> published in a 'e-pub ahead of print' but the journal has a print version
> (which will come later in time) and so does not feel obliged, and does not
> require the authors, to publish a Zoobank link?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Victor Fet
> > Marshall University
> >
> >
> >
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> > Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity for about 35 years, 1987-2022.
> >
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> >
> > Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity for about 35 years, 1987-2022.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 17:40:51 +0000
> From: Thomas Pape <tpape at snm.ku.dk>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Taxacom Digest, Vol 197, Issue 3
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>
> Adam and Lynn are right.
> Zoological names DO NOT have a requirement for a physical copy to be
> published and distributed. But works issued and distributed electronically
> must comply with some specific requirements.
> These can be found under Article 8 in the Code:
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iczn.org%2Fthe-code%2Fthe-code-online%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594703174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=eSX5xBIfXzMrOd%2F%2B0g9RP%2FEg0X%2Bdiwfpj%2F7qNh9XWRQ%3D&reserved=0
>
> If a work is published and distributed in both electronic and printed
> copies, names become available from the version that first fulfills the
> requirements for availability.
>
> If the printed version is published before the electronic version,
> availability dates from this work IF all requirements are fulfilled.
> If the electronic version is published before the printed version,
> availability dates from this work IF all requirements are fulfilled.
>
> /Thomas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Adam Cotton via
> Taxacom
> Sent: 3. september 2022 19:27
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Taxacom Digest, Vol 197, Issue 3
>
> On 04/09/2022 00:17, nigel.marley--- via Taxacom wrote:
> > Dear Victor, with reference to the availability? of a new taxon name,
> > only the date of publication or date of distribution of the physical
> > publication can be accepted. Zoological names still have a requirement
> > for a physical copy to be published and distributed. Therefore
> > ePublications can be ignore with reference to the availability of a
> > new taxon name kind regards,Nigel Marley, University of Plymouth,? UK
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
> That's not quite accurate ... the date of an e-publication is the valid
> date of publication IF the publication complies with the requirements of
> the 2012 amendment to the ICZN Code.
>
> In the case that Victor Fet outlined in his original question the
> amendment has apparently not been followed, and the date of publication is
> that of the printed copy.
>
> Adam.
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> Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity for about 35 years, 1987-2022.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 17:44:16 +0000
> From: "Frank T. Krell" <Frank.Krell at dmns.org>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
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>
> Victor, it is the date of publication of the Version of Record.
> Here are a few references regarding this topic:
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F267337910_Open-access_journals_are_now_open_for_discoveries_of_new_plants_and_animals&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594703174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4YOGx1I%2FrMkzkd1t10%2F2lHgMbCltDl2CRi%2B4xKViS6o%3D&reserved=0
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F282355945_Electronic_publications_need_registration_in_ZooBank_to_be_available&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594703174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TkY0oRhfuxg6%2FDjSld8vl%2BBikCpfpzPpJJVddm8OdWg%3D&reserved=0
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F274372707_A_mixed_bag_when_are_early_online_publications_available_for_nomenclatural_purposes&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594703174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WjD1SLHF%2BW0KpGQtrOqo8aWykUCi7sPWms1%2FItvxjpQ%3D&reserved=0
> Hope that helps.
>
> Frank
>
>
> Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell
>
> Senior Curator of Entomology, Editor-in-Chief
> Commissioner and Councillor, International Commission on Zoological
> Nomenclature
> Department of Zoology
> Denver Museum of Nature & Science
> 2001 Colorado Blvd
> Denver, Colorado 80205-5798, U.S.A.
> Frank.krell at dmns.org
> Phone 303.370.8244
> Fax 303.331.6492
>
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Fet, Victor via
> Taxacom
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 10:25 AM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> A general question to whom it may concern:
>
> What is the official date of publication for a taxon name that is
> published in a 'e-pub ahead of print' but the journal has a print version
> (which will come later in time) and so does not feel obliged, and does not
> require the authors, to publish a Zoobank link?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Victor Fet
> Marshall University
>
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>
> Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity for about 35 years, 1987-2022.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 17:45:31 +0000
> From: "Frank T. Krell" <Frank.Krell at dmns.org>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> Message-ID:
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>
> I should have written: it is the date of publication of the Version of
> Record, if it fulfills all requirements of the Code.
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Frank T. Krell
> via Taxacom
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 11:44 AM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> Victor, it is the date of publication of the Version of Record.
> Here are a few references regarding this topic:
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F267337910_Open-access_journals_are_now_open_for_discoveries_of_new_plants_and_animals&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594703174%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4YOGx1I%2FrMkzkd1t10%2F2lHgMbCltDl2CRi%2B4xKViS6o%3D&reserved=0
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> Hope that helps.
>
> Frank
>
>
> Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell
>
> Senior Curator of Entomology, Editor-in-Chief Commissioner and Councillor,
> International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature Department of Zoology
> Denver Museum of Nature & Science
> 2001 Colorado Blvd
> Denver, Colorado 80205-5798, U.S.A.
> Frank.krell at dmns.org
> Phone 303.370.8244
> Fax 303.331.6492
>
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>
> The "Mazes & Brain Games" experience is now open! This family-friendly
> adventure takes you through a lineup of hands-on activities, dozens of
> puzzles and mazes to challenge your inner genius. ?La experiencia
> "Laberintos y rompecabezas" ya est? abierta! Esta aventura familiar te
> lleva a trav?s de una serie de actividades din?micas, docenas de
> rompecabezas y laberintos para retar a ese genio que llevas dentro.
>
> "Egypt: The Time of?Pharaohs"?is?now open and transports you 5,000 years
> into the past to explore ancient Egyptian culture and the land of pharaohs.
> La?exhibici?n?"Egipto: La era de?los?faraones"
> ya?est??abierta?y?te?transporta?5,000?a?os?al?pasado?para?explorar?la?antigua?cultura?egipcia?y
> la tierra de?los?faraones.?
> ?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Fet, Victor via
> Taxacom
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 10:25 AM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> A general question to whom it may concern:
>
> What is the official date of publication for a taxon name that is
> published in a 'e-pub ahead of print' but the journal has a print version
> (which will come later in time) and so does not feel obliged, and does not
> require the authors, to publish a Zoobank link?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Victor Fet
> Marshall University
>
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> Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity for about 35 years, 1987-2022.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 17:50:42 +0000
> From: "Fet, Victor" <fet at marshall.edu>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>, "Frank T. Krell"
>         <Frank.Krell at dmns.org>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> Message-ID:
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> So are ALL names published in e-pub journals without Zoobank registration
> nomina nuda before the printed copy appears?
> Are journals aware of it?
>
> This creates a date problem at least for names published in December ?
>
> Let's say, e-pub by Smith appears online on December 28, 2022
> Printed copy appears on January 15, 2023
> So Abus Smith, 2022, gen.n is a nomen nudum and the available name is Abus
> Smith, 2023 ?
> ________________________________
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of Frank T. Krell
> via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 1:45 PM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> I should have written: it is the date of publication of the Version of
> Record, if it fulfills all requirements of the Code.
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Frank T. Krell
> via Taxacom
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 11:44 AM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> Victor, it is the date of publication of the Version of Record.
> Here are a few references regarding this topic:
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F267337910_Open-access_journals_are_now_open_for_discoveries_of_new_plants_and_animals&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594859418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=X4QOXdDCbeZ5rHqoq2MZAEqdHaaeXUnj9hO%2BjIFcRkE%3D&reserved=0
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> Hope that helps.
>
> Frank
>
>
> Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell
>
> Senior Curator of Entomology, Editor-in-Chief Commissioner and Councillor,
> International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature Department of Zoology
> Denver Museum of Nature & Science
> 2001 Colorado Blvd
> Denver, Colorado 80205-5798, U.S.A.
> Frank.krell at dmns.org
> Phone 303.370.8244
> Fax 303.331.6492
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dmns.org%2Fscience%2Fzoology%2Fstaff%2Ffrank-krell%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594859418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Q8dss3u16lACMtE0SXcgZ4yt%2FRawQ2lrIELfeVzkhJg%3D&reserved=0
>
> The "Mazes & Brain Games" experience is now open! This family-friendly
> adventure takes you through a lineup of hands-on activities, dozens of
> puzzles and mazes to challenge your inner genius. ?La experiencia
> "Laberintos y rompecabezas" ya est? abierta! Esta aventura familiar te
> lleva a trav?s de una serie de actividades din?micas, docenas de
> rompecabezas y laberintos para retar a ese genio que llevas dentro.
>
> "Egypt: The Time of Pharaohs" is now open and transports you 5,000 years
> into the past to explore ancient Egyptian culture and the land of pharaohs.
> La exhibici?n "Egipto: La era de los faraones"
> ya est? abierta y te transporta 5,000 a?os al pasado para explorar la
> antigua cultura egipcia y la tierra de los faraones.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Fet, Victor via
> Taxacom
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 10:25 AM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> A general question to whom it may concern:
>
> What is the official date of publication for a taxon name that is
> published in a 'e-pub ahead of print' but the journal has a print version
> (which will come later in time) and so does not feel obliged, and does not
> require the authors, to publish a Zoobank link?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Victor Fet
> Marshall University
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:00:23 +0000
> From: "Frank T. Krell" <Frank.Krell at dmns.org>
> To: "Fet, Victor" <fet at marshall.edu>, "taxacom at lists.ku.edu"
>         <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
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> Yes, if the Code requirements are not fulfilled, the names are not
> available. If the Code requirements are fulfilled with the paper
> publication, the paper publication will make the names available. Most
> journals are aware of it. Some are not for whatever reason and cause
> problems.
> We are discussing possible solutions for ?limbo names? for the next
> edition of the Code, which is in preparation, i.e., for names that never
> fulfilled all requirements of the Code. Some electronic-only journals are
> ignorant or negligent regarding Code requirements and cause even more
> problems. Your paper involves a paper version which provides the solution.
> Yes, there are dating issues, but not following rules of the Code can
> easily cause problems. That?s why we have the rules in the first place.
>
> Cheers
>
> Frank
>
>
> Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell
>
> Senior Curator of Entomology, Editor-in-Chief
> Commissioner and Councillor, International Commission on Zoological
> Nomenclature
> Department of Zoology
> Denver Museum of Nature & Science
> 2001 Colorado Blvd
> Denver, Colorado 80205-5798, U.S.A.
> Frank.krell at dmns.org<mailto:Frank.krell at dmns.org>
> Phone 303.370.8244
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> experience is now open! This family-friendly adventure takes you through a
> lineup of hands-on activities, dozens of puzzles and mazes to challenge
> your inner genius.
> ?La experiencia ?Laberintos y rompecabezas?<
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dmns.org%2Fvisit%2Fexhibitions%2Fmazes-brain-games%2F%3Fref%3DDMNSHomePage%26elem%3DBannerFeatured%26cta%3DBtn1%23%3A~%3Atext%3D%25E2%2580%259CMazes%2520%2526%2520Brain%2520Games%25E2%2580%259D%2520is%2Cspecializing%2520in%2520interactive%2520maze%2520exhibits.%26text%3DThe%2520%25E2%2580%259CMazes%2520%2526%2520Brain%2520Games%25E2%2580%259D%2Csolving%2520through%2520open-ended%2520play&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594859418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=891n3e9u%2BzNXBMoCho6hhHzTvx57fWNcLf9Yf%2FOtBH8%3D&reserved=0.>
> ya est? abierta! Esta aventura familiar te lleva a trav?s de una serie de
> actividades din?micas, docenas de rompecabezas y laberintos para retar a
> ese genio que llevas d
>  entro.
>
> ?Egypt: The Time of Pharaohs<
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdmns.mobi%2F3ssZrTO&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723594859418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=f2zFnymgOrL%2BX0Z4woFE4HkjAmQ%2BOd%2FBG%2FbFrSve%2Frc%3D&reserved=0>?
> is now open and transports you 5,000 years into the past to explore ancient
> Egyptian culture and the land of pharaohs.
> La exhibici?n "Egipto: La era de los faraones<
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> >"
> ya est? abierta y te transporta 5,000 a?os al pasado para explorar la
> antigua cultura egipcia y la tierra de los faraones.
>
>
>
> From: Fet, Victor <fet at marshall.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 11:51 AM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu; Frank T. Krell <Frank.Krell at dmns.org>
> Subject: Re: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> So are ALL names published in e-pub journals without Zoobank registration
> nomina nuda before the printed copy appears?
> Are journals aware of it?
>
> This creates a date problem at least for names published in December ?
>
> Let's say, e-pub by Smith appears online on December 28, 2022
> Printed copy appears on January 15, 2023
> So Abus Smith, 2022, gen.n is a nomen nudum and the available name is Abus
> Smith, 2023 ?
> ________________________________
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu<mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu>> on behalf of Frank T. Krell via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>>
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 1:45 PM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu> <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> I should have written: it is the date of publication of the Version of
> Record, if it fulfills all requirements of the Code.
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu<mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu>> On Behalf Of Frank T. Krell via Taxacom
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 11:44 AM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> Victor, it is the date of publication of the Version of Record.
> Here are a few references regarding this topic:
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F267337910_Open-access_journals_are_now_open_for_discoveries_of_new_plants_and_animals&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723595015653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WPB1pZYDHEyCMn1aLJ0jll5gg%2FMFQImMstJK4yWz8CI%3D&reserved=0
>
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>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F274372707_A_mixed_bag_when_are_early_online_publications_available_for_nomenclatural_purposes&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723595015653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KUUrYpMukkaZkha73QCk4H5A6Z55MBdEZtjsiEjOeNU%3D&reserved=0
> Hope that helps.
>
> Frank
>
>
> Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell
>
> Senior Curator of Entomology, Editor-in-Chief Commissioner and Councillor,
> International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature Department of Zoology
> Denver Museum of Nature & Science
> 2001 Colorado Blvd
> Denver, Colorado 80205-5798, U.S.A.
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> Phone 303.370.8244
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>
> The "Mazes & Brain Games" experience is now open! This family-friendly
> adventure takes you through a lineup of hands-on activities, dozens of
> puzzles and mazes to challenge your inner genius. ?La experiencia
> "Laberintos y rompecabezas" ya est? abierta! Esta aventura familiar te
> lleva a trav?s de una serie de actividades din?micas, docenas de
> rompecabezas y laberintos para retar a ese genio que llevas dentro.
>
> "Egypt: The Time of Pharaohs" is now open and transports you 5,000 years
> into the past to explore ancient Egyptian culture and the land of pharaohs.
> La exhibici?n "Egipto: La era de los faraones"
> ya est? abierta y te transporta 5,000 a?os al pasado para explorar la
> antigua cultura egipcia y la tierra de los faraones.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu<mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu>> On Behalf Of Fet, Victor via Taxacom
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 10:25 AM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> A general question to whom it may concern:
>
> What is the official date of publication for a taxon name that is
> published in a 'e-pub ahead of print' but the journal has a print version
> (which will come later in time) and so does not feel obliged, and does not
> require the authors, to publish a Zoobank link?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Victor Fet
> Marshall University
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 14:12:15 -0400
> From: Buz Wilson <buzwilson at gmail.com>
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> Message-ID: <a86df8df-1bbf-6709-3f58-fcfe281ae2cd at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> I suspect that many smaller journals are not aware of the problem. I
> recently published a paper in a journal that had recently become online
> only but they thought they still met the requirements of the code by
> printing 2 copies, one of which was sent to the editor. I had to pester
> the production staff (operated by "E...r") and editor over a period of
> weeks to get them to republish the paper again with Zoobank registration
> and the actual date of publishing online. This was messy and should not
> happen.
> Buz
>
> --
> George D.F. (Buz) Wilson, Ph.D.
> Saugatuck Natural History Laboratory, LLC
> website:
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snhlab.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723595015653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JNezraKzaIBV%2B7wMiQc9O1qor%2Bsvh7zvzvkyRORU2b0%3D&reserved=0
> publications:
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> email:gdfw at SNHLab.com
>
> On 9/3/22 13:50, Fet, Victor via Taxacom wrote:
> > So are ALL names published in e-pub journals without Zoobank
> registration nomina nuda before the printed copy appears?
> > Are journals aware of it?
> >
> > This creates a date problem at least for names published in December ?
> >
> > Let's say, e-pub by Smith appears online on December 28, 2022
> > Printed copy appears on January 15, 2023
> > So Abus Smith, 2022, gen.n is a nomen nudum and the available name is
> Abus Smith, 2023 ?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:21:10 +0000
> From: "Fet, Victor" <fet at marshall.edu>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>, "gdfw at snhlab.com"
>         <gdfw at snhlab.com>, Buz Wilson <buzwilson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> Message-ID:
>         <
> DM6PR01MB440918087F117DD533DCC339D37D9 at DM6PR01MB4409.prod.exchangelabs.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Moreover:
>
> Let's say, e-pub by Smith appears online on December 28, 2022, not
> complying with the Code requirements.
> Printed copy appears on January 15, 2023 (usually it takes longer)
>
> So Abus Smith, 2022, gen.n is a nomen nudum and the available name is Abus
> Smith, 2023.
>
> But an industrious Jones knows what is going on?and publishes Babus Jones,
> 2023, gen.n. (based on the same type species) on January 5, 2023, complying
> with the Code requirements.
> This is easy to do in an e-only journal.
>
> Now Babus is a valid name, and Abus its junior synonym.
>
> I personally know a few industrious Joneses...
> ________________________________
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of Buz Wilson via
> Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 2:12 PM
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> I suspect that many smaller journals are not aware of the problem. I
> recently published a paper in a journal that had recently become online
> only but they thought they still met the requirements of the code by
> printing 2 copies, one of which was sent to the editor. I had to pester
> the production staff (operated by "E...r") and editor over a period of
> weeks to get them to republish the paper again with Zoobank registration
> and the actual date of publishing online. This was messy and should not
> happen.
> Buz
>
> --
> George D.F. (Buz) Wilson, Ph.D.
> Saugatuck Natural History Laboratory, LLC
> website:
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snhlab.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723595015653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JNezraKzaIBV%2B7wMiQc9O1qor%2Bsvh7zvzvkyRORU2b0%3D&reserved=0
> publications:
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> email:gdfw at SNHLab.com
>
> On 9/3/22 13:50, Fet, Victor via Taxacom wrote:
> > So are ALL names published in e-pub journals without Zoobank
> registration nomina nuda before the printed copy appears?
> > Are journals aware of it?
> >
> > This creates a date problem at least for names published in December ?
> >
> > Let's say, e-pub by Smith appears online on December 28, 2022
> > Printed copy appears on January 15, 2023
> > So Abus Smith, 2022, gen.n is a nomen nudum and the available name is
> Abus Smith, 2023 ?
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 21:53:20 +0200
> From: Francisco Welter-Schultes <fwelter at gwdg.de>
> To: <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> Message-ID: <06b31e8e-44ac-d92d-d696-5d935ab984e6 at gwdg.de>
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> Dear Victor,
>
> Abus Smith, 2022 in your example is not a nomen nudum, it is an
> unpublished name. That is not much different from a name you print on a
> label for a specimen in your collection.
>
> As Frank explained, not following rules of the Code can easily cause
> problems. In this case the electronic work that is not registered in
> ZooBank is not considered published in the sense of Art. 8.5.3.
>
> A name that qualifies for being a nomen nudum must be published in the
> sense of the Code.
>
> Glossary:
> nomen nudum (pl. nomina nuda), n. A Latin term referring to a name that,
> if published before 1931, fails to conform to Art. 12; or, if published
> after 1930, fails to conform to Art. 13. A nomen nudum is not an
> available name, and therefore the same name may be made available later
> for the same or a different concept; in such a case it would take
> authorship and date [Arts. 50, 21] from that act of establishment, not
> from any earlier publication as a nomen nudum.
>
> In short words, a nomen nudum is a published new name that was not
> equipped with a description.
>
> This is too brief, because a description can be substituted by something
> else, but this is the idea behind.
>
> Best wishes
> Francisco
>
>
>
> Am 03.09.2022 um 20:21 schrieb Fet, Victor via Taxacom:
> > Moreover:
> >
> > Let's say, e-pub by Smith appears online on December 28, 2022, not
> complying with the Code requirements.
> > Printed copy appears on January 15, 2023 (usually it takes longer)
> >
> > So Abus Smith, 2022, gen.n is a nomen nudum and the available name is
> Abus Smith, 2023.
> >
> > But an industrious Jones knows what is going on?and publishes Babus
> Jones, 2023, gen.n. (based on the same type species) on January 5, 2023,
> complying with the Code requirements.
> > This is easy to do in an e-only journal.
> >
> > Now Babus is a valid name, and Abus its junior synonym.
> >
> > I personally know a few industrious Joneses...
> > ________________________________
> > From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of Buz Wilson
> via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 2:12 PM
> > To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> > Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> >
> > I suspect that many smaller journals are not aware of the problem. I
> > recently published a paper in a journal that had recently become online
> > only but they thought they still met the requirements of the code by
> > printing 2 copies, one of which was sent to the editor. I had to pester
> > the production staff (operated by "E...r") and editor over a period of
> > weeks to get them to republish the paper again with Zoobank registration
> > and the actual date of publishing online. This was messy and should not
> > happen.
> > Buz
> >
> > --
> > George D.F. (Buz) Wilson, Ph.D.
> > Saugatuck Natural History Laboratory, LLC
> > website:
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> > email:gdfw at SNHLab.com
> >
> > On 9/3/22 13:50, Fet, Victor via Taxacom wrote:
> >> So are ALL names published in e-pub journals without Zoobank
> registration nomina nuda before the printed copy appears?
> >> Are journals aware of it?
> >>
> >> This creates a date problem at least for names published in December ?
> >>
> >> Let's say, e-pub by Smith appears online on December 28, 2022
> >> Printed copy appears on January 15, 2023
> >> So Abus Smith, 2022, gen.n is a nomen nudum and the available name is
> Abus Smith, 2023 ?
> >
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2022 03:06:22 +0700
> From: Adam Cotton <thaibaggie at gmail.com>
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
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> On 04/09/2022 02:53, Francisco Welter-Schultes via Taxacom wrote:
> >
> > A name that qualifies for being a nomen nudum must be published in the
> > sense of the Code.
> >
> > Glossary:
> > nomen nudum (pl. nomina nuda), n. A Latin term referring to a name
> > that, if published before 1931, fails to conform to Art. 12; or, if
> > published after 1930, fails to conform to Art. 13. A nomen nudum is
> > not an available name, and therefore the same name may be made
> > available later for the same or a different concept; in such a case it
> > would take authorship and date [Arts. 50, 21] from that act of
> > establishment, not from any earlier publication as a nomen nudum.
> >
> > In short words, a nomen nudum is a published new name that was not
> > equipped with a description.
> >
> > This is too brief, because a description can be substituted by
> > something else, but this is the idea behind.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Francisco
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
> Francisco,
>
> What status do you give to names published after 1999 but not complying
> with Article 16? I would also treat these as nomina nuda.
>
> Adam.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 21:41:56 +0000
> From: Thomas Pape <tpape at snm.ku.dk>
> To: "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> Message-ID: <eeebf04421254537806fff2f8559782c at snm.ku.dk>
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>
> We have two issues here, non-compliant works and non-compliant names.
>
> When a scientific work is published, the work may:
>        (1a) be in compliance with ICZN Article 8 and not excluded by Art.
> 9, and the work has then been published for the purposes of zoological
> nomenclature
>        (1b) not be in compliance with ICZN Article 8 (or be excluded by
> Art. 9), and the work is outside zoological nomenclature
>
> A name proposed in a work deemed not to have been published for the
> purposes of zoological nomenclature is not regulated by the Code.
> Such a name is an unpublished name and will fall outside of the
> terminology applied to names published in the meaning of the Code. As
> explained by Francisco.
>
> This is a technicality stemming from how terms are defined, but it is
> practical to classify works as being either inside (and with content
> regulated by) or outside (and with content not regulated by) the existing
> legislation.
>
> Names that are published [for the purposes of zoological nomenclature]
> after 1930 but fails to conform to Art. 13 are nomina nuda.
> Names published [for the purposes of zoological nomenclature] after 1999
> and complying with Art. 13 but not complying with Article 16 are
> "unavailable".
>
> /Thomas
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Adam Cotton via
> Taxacom
> Sent: 3. september 2022 22:06
> To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
>
> On 04/09/2022 02:53, Francisco Welter-Schultes via Taxacom wrote:
> >
> > A name that qualifies for being a nomen nudum must be published in the
> > sense of the Code.
> >
> > Glossary:
> > nomen nudum (pl. nomina nuda), n. A Latin term referring to a name
> > that, if published before 1931, fails to conform to Art. 12; or, if
> > published after 1930, fails to conform to Art. 13. A nomen nudum is
> > not an available name, and therefore the same name may be made
> > available later for the same or a different concept; in such a case it
> > would take authorship and date [Arts. 50, 21] from that act of
> > establishment, not from any earlier publication as a nomen nudum.
> >
> > In short words, a nomen nudum is a published new name that was not
> > equipped with a description.
> >
> > This is too brief, because a description can be substituted by
> > something else, but this is the idea behind.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Francisco
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
> Francisco,
>
> What status do you give to names published after 1999 but not complying
> with Article 16? I would also treat these as nomina nuda.
>
> Adam.
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 20:10:28 -0400
> From: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>
> To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Subject: Taxacom: Ghost moth biogeography and tectonics - Mexico
> Message-ID:
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> For those interested, the following note is published in the News of the
> Lepidopterist's Society:
>
> Grehan, J.R. 2022. Biogeography of Phassus ghost moths and the
> Sonora-Mojave megashear of Mexico. News of the Lepidopterists' Society 64:
> 131, 134-137.
>
> Article accessible at
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.peabody.yale.edu%2Flepsoc%2Fnls%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Cc58708bc978d49d3d3ce08da8e44962d%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637978723595171903%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=svBjV75LF0F7JUZgdpLAi4WFbiUiqBD2TCeQj%2BhM0mQ%3D&reserved=0
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> Cheers, John Grehan
>
> --
>
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> (use the 'visit archived web site'
> link, then the 'Ghost Moth Research page' link.
>
>
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>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 14:34:33 -1000
> From: "Richard Pyle" <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
> To: "'Thomas Pape'" <tpape at snm.ku.dk>,  <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
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> I just read through all the commentary here, and I think this post from
> Thomas addresses the various questions most succinctly.  To commemorate the
> point I make in the "P.S." below, I'll add a few comments to help clarify
> things (because I deal with this stuff on a near-daily basis). Keep in mind
> that the following applies to the current (Fourth Edition) of the ICZN
> Code, as Amended in 2012 (e.g., see: doi:10.3897/zookeys.219.3944).
>
> 1) Any name proposed before 1 January 2012 can only be made available
> within a work published on physical paper (Art. 8.5.1)
> 2) In reality, any name proposed before 4 September 2012 can only be made
> available within a work published on physical paper (the date the Amendment
> was published, and the date on which the version of ZooBank that supported
> all requirements was publicly released).
> 3) Any name or nomenclatural act appearing in an electronic document can
> only be made available if the requirements of Art. 8 are fulfilled, and
> none of the provisions of Art. 9 apply.  The requirements specific to
> electronic works include:
>         a) The work itself must state the date of publication. Most people
> interpret this as a "date" at any level of precision (even if just the
> year, and even if just the year in the form of a copyright statement) (Art.
> 8.5.2).
>         b) The work must be registered in the ICZN Official Register
> (i.e., ZooBank).  Registration of names has always been optional in the
> current active edition of the Code (Art. 8.5.3)
>         c) The work itself must contain evidence of registration. Examples
> of evidence include the registration number of the work, or the exact date
> of registration of the work, the registration number of a name within the
> registered work, and perhaps other things as well. The registration of an
> Author of the work does not count as evidence.  The evidence may be
> formatted in a way that is visible to humans in the electronic document, or
> it may be embedded in some non-visible way (e.g., in the electronic
> document metadata, or as an embedded hyperlink within the electronic
> document). (Art. 8.5.3)
>         d) The ZooBank record must indicate an online archive for which
> the electronic copy of the work is intended to be deposited. This must be
> selected from among the "approved" online archives listed on the ZooBank
> "About" page.  This can either be applied to the specific work itself, or
> to the "parent" work (Journal, series, book, etc. to which the registered
> work is linked). The electronic work does NOT have to actually be deposited
> in the archive -- the only requirement is that the intended archive be
> indicated in ZooBank. (Art. 8.5.3.1)
>         e) The electronic document must exist in a manner that preserves
> the content and layout. (Art. 8.5.3.1)
>         f) The ZooBank record must indicate an ISSN for the journal or
> series in which a work is published, or an ISBN of a book or volume in
> which a work is published. (Art. 8.5.3.2)
> [Note that items a, c, and e above apply to the electronic work itself;
> whereas items b, d & f, apply to the ZooBank registration record.]
> 4) An electronic document is considered to be published in the sense of
> the Code at the moment that all of the requirements listed above are
> fulfilled, provided the work does not fall afoul of any provision of Art. 9.
> 5) There is ambiguity in the Code concerning Art. 9.9 as to what
> represents "preliminary versions of a work accessible electronically in
> advance of publication".  I have never seen a clear example of this.  The
> Article itself is circular, in the sense that it essentially says, "A work
> cannot be published before it is published."  I know Frank and others like
> to use the term "Version of Record" or similar terms, but these terms have
> no meaning in the sense of the Code.  I am not aware of any aspect of the
> Code that would clarify when Art 9.9 would actually apply.
> 6) As noted by Francisco and Thomas and others, the term "nomen nudum"
> means different things to different people. By struct definition in the
> Code, the term does not apply to names that fail to appear in works that
> are considered published in the sense of the Code.  In my interpretation,
> any name proposed in electronic form (e.g., PDF) in a well-regarded,
> peer-reviewed journal with full documentation in all respects except that
> it fails to fulfill one or more of the requirements of publications, should
> be treated exactly the same as someone writing an email to a colleague that
> says "I think we should call our new species Aus xus, and designate the
> specimen in my collection in Honolulu as the holotype, because it differs
> from all other species in having an "x"-shaped spot on it."  In both cases,
> the name is not published in the sense of the Code -- and therefore does
> not exist in the sense of the Code.  Neither is a nomen nudum; it's just
> that neither exists from the perspective of t
>  he Code.
> 7) In cases where a work containing a new name or act exists both
> electronically and in paper form, the date of publication is the earliest
> date on which either form fulfilled the Code requirements for publication
> (Art. 21.9).
> 8) In cases where date of either a paper-published work, or electronic
> work is uncertain, the other provisions of Art. 21 apply.
>
> I think that covers all the points I wanted to emphasize; but I may have
> missed some.  I think part of Victor Fet's original question is addressed
> in #7 above, in conjunction with the points made in #5, and other
> requirements in the list above.,
>
> Aloha,
> Rich
>
> P.S. I began writing this email almost exactly at midnight UTC on 4
> September 2022 -- so I literally starting typing within a minute of the
> exact tenth Anniversary of the era of electronic publication under ICZN.
> So... Happy tenth anniversary, everyone!
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Thomas Pape
> via
> > Taxacom
> > Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 11:42 AM
> > To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> > Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> >
> > We have two issues here, non-compliant works and non-compliant names.
> >
> > When a scientific work is published, the work may:
> >        (1a) be in compliance with ICZN Article 8 and not excluded by
> Art. 9, and the
> > work has then been published for the purposes of zoological nomenclature
> >        (1b) not be in compliance with ICZN Article 8 (or be excluded by
> Art. 9), and
> > the work is outside zoological nomenclature
> >
> > A name proposed in a work deemed not to have been published for the
> > purposes of zoological nomenclature is not regulated by the Code.
> > Such a name is an unpublished name and will fall outside of the
> terminology
> > applied to names published in the meaning of the Code. As explained by
> > Francisco.
> >
> > This is a technicality stemming from how terms are defined, but it is
> practical to
> > classify works as being either inside (and with content regulated by) or
> outside
> > (and with content not regulated by) the existing legislation.
> >
> > Names that are published [for the purposes of zoological nomenclature]
> after
> > 1930 but fails to conform to Art. 13 are nomina nuda.
> > Names published [for the purposes of zoological nomenclature] after 1999
> and
> > complying with Art. 13 but not complying with Article 16 are
> "unavailable".
> >
> > /Thomas
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Adam Cotton
> via
> > Taxacom
> > Sent: 3. september 2022 22:06
> > To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> > Subject: Re: Taxacom: Dates of e-pubs ahead of print?
> >
> > On 04/09/2022 02:53, Francisco Welter-Schultes via Taxacom wrote:
> > >
> > > A name that qualifies for being a nomen nudum must be published in the
> > > sense of the Code.
> > >
> > > Glossary:
> > > nomen nudum (pl. nomina nuda), n. A Latin term referring to a name
> > > that, if published before 1931, fails to conform to Art. 12; or, if
> > > published after 1930, fails to conform to Art. 13. A nomen nudum is
> > > not an available name, and therefore the same name may be made
> > > available later for the same or a different concept; in such a case it
> > > would take authorship and date [Arts. 50, 21] from that act of
> > > establishment, not from any earlier publication as a nomen nudum.
> > >
> > > In short words, a nomen nudum is a published new name that was not
> > > equipped with a description.
> > >
> > > This is too brief, because a description can be substituted by
> > > something else, but this is the idea behind.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Francisco
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> > Francisco,
> >
> > What status do you give to names published after 1999 but not complying
> with
> > Article 16? I would also treat these as nomina nuda.
> >
> > Adam.
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