Taxacom: [iczn-list] Meier et al.'s re-analysis of the data in Sharkey et al.’s (2021) in Cladistics

[Fernandez, Jose]

That paper has been around for a while, although as an early view online. I cited it in my ZooKeys forum paper about turbotaxonomy (https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzookeys.pensoft.net%2Farticle%2F76720%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C4990fa2de2234925d6b908da223a2bf8%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637859930487350458%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xvqyKlBRO4%2FtYHzMp%2BVUUQ91gldskIBZoJAcD3vncVs%3D&reserved=0), which I mentioned in this list back in February, but no one seemed to be interested in debating the topic further. Hopefully now Meier's paper will bring the attention again back to the topic. I found Meier et al. (2022) one of the strongest and soundests arguments so far against use of DNA-only taxonomy, while also being very well written and balanced. The thing about BINs is a bit scary (from a scientific perspective), although I sincerely hope that is fixable in the near future by BOLD.

Regardless, the topic is still relevant and listening to different opinions is important and necessary. We need to speed up the pace of taxonomy, no questions about that; but we also should strive to do it as best as possible. I would welcome respectful debate on that, as I have found myself learning from different ideas on the issue, even when I disagreed with some of them.

Cheers,
Jose

--
José L. Fernández-Triana, Ph.D.
Research Scientist, Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
Canadian National Collection of Insects (CNC) 
960 Carling Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0C6, CANADA 
Phone: 613-759-1034. Email: jose.fernandez at canada.ca 
Alternative email : cnc.braconidae at gmail.com

Approved disclaimer text, if applicable.

-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Robert Zuparko via Taxacom
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 2:17 PM
To: Scott Thomson <scott.thomson321 at gmail.com>
Cc: ICZN list <iczn-list at afriherp.org>; taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: [iczn-list] Meier et al.'s re-analysis of the data in Sharkey et al.’s (2021) in Cladistics

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
ATTENTION: Ce courriel provient de l’extérieur de l’organisation. Ne cliquez pas sur les liens et n’ouvrez pas les pièces jointes à moins que vous ne reconnaissiez l’expéditeur et que vous sachiez que le contenu est sûr.

I was just going to say "Holy guacamole", but Scott expressed it better.

-Bob Zuparko
_______________________________________________
Taxacom Mailing List

Send Taxacom mailing list submissions to: taxacom at lists.ku.edu For list information; to subscribe or unsubscribe, visit: https://lists.ku.edu/listinfo/taxacom
You can reach the person managing the list at: taxacom-owner at lists.ku.edu The Taxacom email archive back to 1992 can be searched at: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftaxacom.markmail.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C4990fa2de2234925d6b908da223a2bf8%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637859930487350458%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dM6SECDu48rpZ8BDKTKwXefQjrmAt7i2uiQ%2BMu72qAo%3D&reserved=0

Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity for about 35 years, 1987-2022.