[Taxacom] Catastrophic loss

Sun Jan 24 14:18:56 CST 2021

Well, don’t worry too much... Americans have “Swiss cheese”...

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> Le 24 janv. 2021 à 20:41, John Grehan via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> a écrit :
> 
> well, we do have 'wooly bear' caterpillars :)
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 2:30 PM Tony Rees via Taxacom <
>> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> I think that years ago, toys of the animal were labelled "koala bears" and
>> marketed to kids, particularly overseas, which is why some of our U.S.
>> friends in particular may have picked up on that name by osmosis. Here on
>> Taxacom we are much more discerning of course!!
>> 
>> They do look a little bear like - and "bear" (arctos) is part of the
>> scientific name, showing that inaccuracies can become enshrined...
>> 
>> Best - Tony
>> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
>> https://about.me/TonyRees
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 06:17, Scott Thomson <scott.thomson321 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think Tony its an Australian thing, I too as an Australian never use
>>> Koala Bear and it grates for me too. As you say its just Koala, and why
>> it
>>> ever had Bear added is beyond me cause they neither look like or act like
>>> true bears. Though when the males get into a good fight I suppose they
>> can
>>> sound like them.
>>> 
>>> Cheers Scott
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 3:54 PM Tony Rees via Taxacom <
>>> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well I dunno... here in Australia we do indeed have lots of common names
>>>> based on misleading external resemblances... we have Australian salmon
>>>> that
>>>> are not salmon, as you say silky oaks that are not oaks, Australian
>>>> magpies
>>>> that are not magpies... All fine with me since these have become the
>>>> "legitimate" common names. However the common name for the koala is the
>>>> koala, pure and simple. "Koala bear" just grates... - and makes me think
>>>> that the user should be educated to know better (sorry if this offends,
>>>> maybe it is just me assuming a superiority when I should not). All
>> right,
>>>> I'll shut up now, and run away fast!!
>>>> 
>>>> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
>>>> https://about.me/TonyRees
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 04:50, Richard Jensen via Taxacom <
>>>> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Tony Reese wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (1) "Koala bear-like animal with carnivorous teeth" - no bear
>>>> references
>>>>>>> PLEASE!! Koalas are koalas, pure and simple, and about as far away
>>>>>>> (phylogenetically) from bears as you can get and still be a mammal.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh no! Gone is "Teddy Bear"; so to the "Australian silver oak"; no
>> more
>>>>> "seahorses"; extinction of "lady bugs"; disappearance of "butterfly
>>>> weed";?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was not aware that Koala bear was a name of confusion, based on
>>>> illusion,
>>>>> or simply allusion. Do we really believe such names can deceive? Or
>> can
>>>> we
>>>>> forebear, with little despair, that names we all know, from quite long
>>>> ago,
>>>>> need not agree with phylogeny?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dick
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