[Taxacom] [EXT] Re: Please-can anyone send me publication information for these two names?

[Mary Barkworth]

That helps a lot. Thank you.

From: Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:49 AM
To: Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] [EXT] Re: Please-can anyone send me publication information for these two names?

Hi Mary,

In zoology (as opposed to botany) there is no requirement for a combination to be previously published to use it - anyone can recombine a specific epithet with a different genus if they have a reason to do so, the original authorship remains, it is just cited in parentheses to show that the genus has been changed (also a rank change of itself does not generate a change of authorship). Thus:

Canis mesomelas Schreber, 1775
Canis schmidti Noack, 1897
or:
Canis mesomelas schmidti Noack, 1897

Or the same if considered better placed in Lupulella: (no "combining author" is cited or needs to previously exist)
Lupulella mesomelas (Schreber, 1775)
Lupulella mesomelas schmidti (Noack, 1897)

The comma between the author name and the year is optional. I prefer it but some do not, which is also fine.

Hope this helps, - Tony

Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
https://about.me/TonyRees


On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 04:40, Mary Barkworth via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>> wrote:
I should have been clearer. I found Lupulella mesomelas<https://openzoomuseum.org/taxa/index.php?taxon=341486> (Schreber, 1775) for the species- but have found no evidence that the appropriate combination for the subspecies has been formally published. Not sure what to do.

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Subject: [EXT] Re: Please-can anyone send me publication information for these two names?

Hi again,
        Sorry, I didn't know that you meant the authors of the current name combinations.  The first usage of Lupulella mesomelas appears to come from a 2017 paper (see weblink below).  They don't seem to have mentioned the subspecies schmidti (just the species).
                                                        ------------Ken
Suvi Viranta<https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-1>, Anagaw Atickem<https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-2>, Lars Werdelin<https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-3> & Nils Chr. Stenseth<https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-4>  BMC Zoology<https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/> volume 2, Article number: 6  volume 2, Article number: 6 (2017)
   weblink:  https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0

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Subject: [Taxacom] Please-can anyone send me publication information for these two names?

Lupulella mesomelas
Lupulella mesomelas schmidti

What I am looking for is authorship and year of publication for citation in standard zoological format.  I know the combinations are being used.
Thank you.
Mary


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