[Taxacom] ORCHID ID

[Shorthouse, David]

John (with apologies because I did not initially Reply All) -

Yours is a common sentiment and perfectly understandable. Research
Gate to a number of us is "THE" place to post research & network with
one another so why do we need yet another of these things?! Well... RG
is for-profit and a walled-garden. That might be perfectly acceptable
to some of us but it raises big red flags for me. ORCID's business
model is through institutional memberships, open integrations, and
support services. RG is immediately useful but it makes me cringe.
ORCID's value-add is more diffuse and nebulous; it's not meant to be
anything like RG but more like a plumbing service as Rod described.
Its messaging needs a lot of work as a result.

Insofar as Bloodhound is concerned, it would give me joy to attribute
your specimens to you once you have your ORCID. That's a big part of
what Bloodhound is all about; it's not merely claiming one's own -
that's rather thankless - but attributing them to others who you
admire, living or deceased. And it turns out, there are other
cheerleaders like me. So as not to make yet another walled-garden, you
may use ORCID yet again via Bloodhound to automatically archive your
specimen data to Zenodo & obtain a DOI w/ citation for your CV. I'm
not sure if this is how we want to be credited for time & effort
working on specimens, but it's easy enough and it's persistent. You
may not care for this, but I see it as a quick win for early career
taxonomists & conservationists like Kit Prendergast
https://bloodhound-tracker.net/0000-0002-1164-6099 and others like
her.

Next steps for Bloodhound are to work with collections managers to
incorporate ORCID and wikidata in their agents tables and serve these
attributions directly.

David P. Shorthouse

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:34 PM John Grehan via Taxacom
<taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>
>   Hi Rod,
>
> I can see how this might be useful or interesting for those working on such
> connections. For me I really do not see any relevance to my work or life (I
> may yet be enlightened). Sorry to be so dismissive, but I don't see
> anything really useful or beneficial to me personally. And I am not
> interested in 'claiming' any specimens one way or the other. And I
> certainly don't care about any kind of 'cv' web databases make up as they
> may or may not be correct, but I just don't have the time, resources, or
> inclination to be chasing up on what others make of my life this way. ORCID
> just seems like another example of automated systems running peoples lives
> and we have enough of that already. But I may well be mistaken and yet see
> the light.
>
> Cheers, John