[Taxacom] The Hathi Trust
David Campbell
pleuronaia at gmail.com
Tue Feb 26 08:38:11 CST 2019
2019
Making your server claim to be in the US might help with publications from
the early 1900's, but for much of Haithi you need to be on the campus of an
institution with a subscription - remote access isn't an option that I can
find. Entering search terms and seeing if Haithi thinks they are found in
the text isn't very useful, given the unreliability of OCR - a display of
tables of contents would be much more helpful in determining if a reference
might be worth pursuing with interlibrary loan or similar programs.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:11 AM Dilrukshan Wijesinghe <
dpwijesinghe at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Two books I wanted to consult several years ago (one biodiversity related,
> the other family history related) which were in the Hathi Trust catalog I
> couldn't gain access to due to the odd restrictions at Hathi Trust. Here is
> a sample of the exchange (with names removed) I had about the two items
> (separated by dotted lines). If you think something you need is only
> available via Hathi Trust but cannot gain access to it I would recommend
> first checking archive.org, BHL, Google Books, etc. As someone suggested,
> even an interlibrary loan could be faster!
>
> ---------------------------
> I am unable to download a book that should be in the public domain which
> appears in your catalog: "The Indian Museum, 1814-1914", published by the
> Trustees of the Indian Museum, Calcutta, and printed at the Baptist Mission
> Press, 1914.
>
> http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001378416
>
> I cannot understand why access to a PDF of a work such as this (which
> should be in the public domain) is restricted to a privileged few! I am
> attaching a paper of mine that should establish my credentials as a
> researcher in (among others) the history of biodiversity exploration in
> South Asia.
>
> I would appreciate it very much if you could enable me to download this
> book. The purpose of digitizing out-of-copyrighr publications is to make
> the intellectual work of past generations more easily accessible to the
> present and future generations. To put restrictions seems to me to defeat
> that goal.
>
> [Note: Book now available: https://archive.org/details/b21687948/page/n10
>
> ----------------------------
>
> Thank you for the additional information about the death date. Working
> from when Mr. Ewing died, I'm afraid this work will be in copyright outside
> the United States for 9 more years (works being in copyright for 70 years
> after the author(s) died is a common term). We will need to keep it closed
> for worldwide viewing until that time, and I imagine that Google will keep
> the restrictions until at least that time. It may be worth looking into a
> inter-library loan or a document delivery service like MITS at the
> University of Michigan (http://www.lib.umich.edu/mits) or InfoNow at the
> University of Minnesota (http://www.lib.umn.edu/infonow/services-docdel).
> I'm sorry we won't be able to be of more help for this volume.
>
> XXXX
>
> Dear XXXX,
> I am forwarding this message to you from the BMS World Mission about the
> year of death of John A. Ewing, author of "Lanka: The Resplendent Isle: The
> Story of the Baptist Mission in Ceylon" (1912 or 1913, Baptist Missionary
> Society, London). As you can see, he died in 1951, i.e. 61 years ago. I
> think no reasonable person will expect the individuals who took the
> photographs in that book to be still alive. For example, we know that some
> of the photos came from books by Henry William Cave but Cave's years are
> 1853-1913! The vast majority of people BORN in the year Ewing's book was
> published are dead, so to expect it's author or photographers to be still
> alive is (to put it mildly) being unduly optimistic or assuming Biblical
> (Old Testament) longevity!
>
> Please, can you see if Google at least make the PDF version of the book
> (and others like it) available to individual researchers on a case-by-case
> basis?
> Thank you for your interest and help.
>
> [Note: Book now available:
> https://books.google.com/books/about/Lanka_the_Resplendent_Isle.html?id=eGEaAAAAMAAJ
> ---------------------------------
>
> Priyantha
> D. P. Wijesinghe
> dpwijesinghe at yahoo.com
>
> On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 6:43:25 AM EST, Johnson, Paul <
> Paul.Johnson at sdstate.edu> wrote:
>
> Have checked with the pertinent librarian on campus. Access to Hathi
> Trust holdings apparently requires an institutional membership/subscription
> for access for most of their holdings. However, if you can view individual
> pages of a document then you can screen print or copy that page; not ideal,
> but is useful for critical information.
>
>
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> on behalf of Paul Kirk
> <p.kirk at kew.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:23 AM
> To: Boyce, Peter; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] The Hathi Trust
>
> No ... not alone.
>
> Solution: get a proxy server for your browser and pretend to be in the US
> of A ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Boyce,
> Peter
> Sent: 26 February 2019 07:21
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] The Hathi Trust
>
> Dear All,
>
> *slightly* tongue-in-cheek posting: Am I alone if finding The Hathi Trust
> THE most inaccessible literature resource on the web?
>
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/
>
> Comments (especially as to where I might be able to get access...) much
> appreciated!
>
> Peter
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