[Taxacom] Thousands of holotype burn
Robert Louis Zuparko
rz at berkeley.edu
Wed Sep 5 19:10:51 CDT 2018
2018
No, this is a tragedy, pure and simple, regardless of any political context.
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Robert Zuparko
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
wrote:
> I would call it (in a global context) a "set back", rather than a tragedy
> (tragedy="an event causing great suffering, destruction, and distress, such
> as a serious accident, crime, or natural catastrophe"). Let's keep things
> in proper perspective, shall we? Or are we going to use this event to
> further some sort of political agenda?
>
> Stephen
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 6/9/18, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Thousands of holotype burn
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Received: Thursday, 6 September, 2018, 9:12 AM
>
> An example of how we can
> personalize the impact of this global tragedy,
> and use our local media to engage a broader
> local public audience with
> the importance
> of museums and the way Rio's loss reaches out across the
>
> globe. People need to understand this not a
> tragedy just for Brazil, but
> for the
> world.
>
> Mike
>
> https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/montana_state_university/
> rio-museum-fire-destroys-some-msu-scientific-specimens/
> article_d7d7bf7e-6743-5632-a27d-f6f5ae00b039.html?utm_
> medium=social&utm_sourceúcebook&utm_campaign=user-share
>
>
> On 9/5/2018
> 10:02 AM, David Campbell wrote:
> >
> It's understandable, given the general colonialist
> approach to natural
> > resources, that
> many countries would feel somewhat possessive. However,
> > there's plenty of local "anything
> found here must stay here" attitude
> > locally within the US, which doesn't
> have that excuse. We need to work
> >
> towards a system that involves local experts and local
> populations in the
> > global exchange of
> information and specimens.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Peter
> Rauch <peterar at berkeley.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Keeping
> in mind Mike Ivie's exhortation, "Goodness guys,
> can' we have a
> >> period of
> mourning before the snits start?", but listening to
> some of the
> >> U.S. TV news reporting
> on the "event" and the normal penchant to
> identify
> >> "guilty
> parties", and pondering for a moment the years now that
> the world
> >> has been wrestling with
> various countries' notions of "national
> patrimony"
> >> relating to their
> biota, their collections of the same, and further the
> >> commercial (to say nothing of
> scientific) implications that modern genetics
> >> has given those collections and to
> still-extant living (local)
> >>
> biodiversity, I wonder ...
> >>
> >> What are, what should be, the
> political implications and ramifications of
> >> such catastrophic events, nationally,
> internationally ?
> >>
> >> Can the world afford even one more
> such event?
> >>
> >> Does it even matter --we're doing
> such a great job of destroying Earth's
> >> and Humanity's Future everywhere;
> who cares about one museum's worth to
> >> Humanity?
> >>
> >> Lots of individual tradegies erupted
> in a few moments for a great many who
> >> are/were deeply dedicated to the
> enlightenment of the World, each shining a
> >> bright light into the future. What
> does the world (of politics) owe them
> >> and all?
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:12 AM,
> Eduardo Dalcin <edalcin at jbrj.gov.br>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> A letter from the director &
> curator of R Herbarium:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.iaptglobal.org/single-post/2018/09/05/From-the-
> >>> director-curator-of-R
> >>>
> >>>
> Eduardo
> >>>
> --------------------------------
> >>> [image: photo]
> >>> *Eduardo Dalcin*
> >>> Inst. Pesq. Jardim Botânico do
> Rio de Janeiro
> >>> +55 21 3204 2116
> <+55+21+3204+2116> | +55 21 98393 3344
> >> <+55+21+98393+3344>
> >>> | edalcin at jbrj.org
> | Skype: eduardo.dalcin
> >>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#>
> >>> | WhatsApp: 55 21
> 983933344
> >>> Rua Pacheco Leão 915
> - Sl 203 - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - Brazil
> >>> <http://facebook.com/eduardo.dalcin>
> <http://linkedin.com/in/edalcin>
> >>> <http://github.com/edalcin>
> >>> Portal de Dados: http://dados.jbrj.gov.br
> >>> Blog: http://eduardo.dalc.in
> >>> "To organize Brazil's
> biodiversity information and make it universally
> >>> accessible and useful."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Em ter, 4 de set de 2018 Ã s
> 12:23, Christopher Davis <cdavis15 at asu.edu>
> >>> escreveu:
> >>>
> >>>>
> Dear All,
> >>>>
> >>>> Just forwarding this from
> another list:
> >>>>
> >>>> Have you ever been to The
> National Museum of Brazil? Did you take any
> >>>> photos of any of the specimens
> held there? If so, the Museu Nacional
> >>> staff
> >>>> are asking for your help.
> Please email any photos you can to
> >>>> isabeladfrreitas at gmail.com.
> With any luck some photos will have
> >>
> legible
> >>>> labels which may
> help recover at least some data. This is truly a
> >>>> heartbreaking day for
> palaeontology, and science in general, but
> >>> hopefully
> >>>> as a community we can come
> together and salvage something from the
> >>> sadness.
> >>>> ~
> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>
> >>>> Christopher Davis
> >>>> PhD candidate, Plant Sciences,
> University of Cambridge
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 4:34
> AM, Ivie, Michael <mivie at montana.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>> This might well be the
> largest loss of primary types ever in a single
> >>>>> event, if the reported
> total loss proves true. Thousands of types in
> >>> the
> >>>>> Cerambycidae alone.
> >>>>> Our hearts go out to our
> Brazilian colleagues. Horrible event,
> >> please
> >>>
> no
> >>>>> negative comments
> while this tragedy is so fresh.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-45392668?
> >>>>>
> ns_sourceúcebook&ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_
> >>>>>
> campaign»cnews&ns_mchannel=social
> >>>>>
> __________________________________________________
> >>>>> Michael A. Ivie, Ph.D.,
> F.R.E.S.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NOTE: two addresses with
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> US Post Office Address:
> >>>>> Montana Entomology
> Collection
> >>>>> Marsh Labs,
> Room 50
> >>>>> PO Box
> 173145
> >>>>> Montana State
> University
> >>>>> Bozeman, MT
> 59717
> >>>>> USA
> >>>>>
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> Address:
> >>>>> Montana
> Entomology Collection
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
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> University
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> 59718
> >>>>> USA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (406) 994-4610 (voice)
> >>>>> (406) 994-6029 (FAX)
> >>>>> mivie at montana.edu
> >>>>>
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> Michael A. Ivie, Ph.D.,
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