[Taxacom] taxonomic impediment redux (was Re: Earth BioGenome
Project)
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Fri Nov 2 20:07:10 CDT 2018
2018
Ken,
Sounds like you may have missed the point of the "Creepy-crawlies" example. It isn't about funding cuts. It is about funding going to fake science projects designed (by the institutions claiming "overheads" from the funding) simply to maximise profits.
Stephen
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On Sat, 3/11/18, Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] taxonomic impediment redux (was Re: Earth BioGenome Project)
To: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>, "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
Received: Saturday, 3 November, 2018, 1:43 PM
Hi Stephen,
It's not just the "creepy-crawlies"
getting neglected. Here in the U.S., seems like work on
endangered vertebrates can even be on the budget cutting
list. Due to budget cuts,
and after 51 years of valuable successes, the whooping
crane breeding program at Patuxent, Maryland, is ending.
They will instead be bred elsewhere. There seems to be a
trend now to encourage private sector jobs, but government
jobs not so much. If whooping
crane research is being cut, work on the creepy-crawling
invertebrates is probably even more
vulnerable.
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/whooping-cranes-leave-maryland-program-because-of-budget-cuts/12485927
https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/environment/article_32509bac-d3ef-11e8-8877-9312bd47dd56.html
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Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 2:55 PM
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; Doug Yanega
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] taxonomic impediment redux
(was Re: Earth BioGenome Project)
What Doug
says is the long version of what I said more succinctly,
i.e. corporate funding driven BS! Note that about 50% of the
$5 billion will disappear into institutional coffers as
"overheads". The remainder will be spent as
quickly
and effortlessly as possible, so that they can quickly move
on to new funding opportunities. They won't care one bit
about quality control, or even if the entire enterprise is
actually useful or not for any purpose. Are funders
complicit, or do they really
fall for this nonsense? I suspect that even governments are
complicit, if it all serves to pump money through the
economy in a "useful" way, keeping people employed
and generating taxes. The bigger picture here is science
being compromised by corporate profit
seeking, all too often resulting in nonsense projects being
funded just to maximise profits (by way of claiming
"overheads" and spending the rest quickly and
effortlessly on nonsense, for a small local example, see
this charities funded "climate change" MSc:
https://aucklandecology.com/2016/07/01/care-for-the-creepy-crawlies/
)
Stephen
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On Sat, 3/11/18, Doug Yanega <dyanega at ucr.edu>
wrote:
Subject: [Taxacom] taxonomic impediment redux (was Re:
Earth BioGenome Project)
To: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu"
<taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Received: Saturday, 3 November, 2018, 7:10 AM
On 11/1/18 3:32 PM, KD Dijkstra wrote:
Hi all,
I was just pondering the announcement
when Tony's message came in. The
Earth BioGenome Project states that "we
desperately need to catalogue life
on our planet now". Their solution is
to spend 5 billion dollars on reading
the genomes of 1.5 million (described?)
species.
I've lately developed the feeling that
a new problem is arising on top of
the 'old' taxonomic impediment (i.e.
the phenomenon that taxonomists can't
keep up with biodiversity's extent). We
might call the new issue the
"taxonomic standoff": we can now
generate so much data (specimen records on
GBIF, DNA-barcodes on BOLD, and now
apparently millions of billions genomic
data) that there's a risk that
remaining experts won't keep up with the
verification and eventually give up,
making most of the effort redundant.
This occurs if investment in
innovations that could (and indeed were
intended to) strengthen biodiversity
expertise is so disproportionate that
it tips the balance between quantity
and quality. The entire effort to
catalogue biodiversity would then
effectively collapse under its own
weight.
So my questions to the taxonomic
community are (1) whether such a
"taxonomic standoff" is indeed
unfolding and (2) if taking a collective
stance relative to this latest
initiative (which will make huge demands of
the community, but might benefit it
too) would be a way to strengthen our
position.
A colleague just this week showed me a
paper he had been sent for review by an established,
peer-reviewed journal, that is instructive in this
regard.
In it, a number of plant-feeding
insects and their presumed parasites were listed, all
identified to species, but not a single one of which
had
been identified by a taxonomist. They had all been IDed
by
simply looking for the nearest match in GenBank. They
were
all in genera that contained dozens to over a hundred
species for which no GenBank sequences were available
(and,
on top of that, a quick check revealed that a few of
the
taxa showing on GenBank clearly have sequences from
multiple
species represented, and no way to know which ones
actually
were the taxon named). Several of the resulting IDs
were
therefore of species that didn't even occur in that
Hemisphere, and all but one or two of the rest were
almost
certainly wrong. The authors saw nothing wrong with
this,
the editor that sent the manuscript out for review saw
nothing wrong with this, and the odds are good that my
colleague may be the only one of the reviewers who DID
see
anything wrong with this. That is, it may indeed get
published, despite being absolute rubbish.
This is the old taxonomic impediment,
but now it's just being ignored, by removing taxonomy
from
the equation entirely.
There is no way to prevent this from
happening, that I can see, given certain unavoidable
realities. IN PRINCIPLE, every editor of every journal
would
know that this is unacceptable, and reject every such
submission. If attempting to publish such a paper was
100%
guaranteed to fail, then researchers would be forced to
incorporate support for taxonomy into their research,
or
they would risk losing funding, and losing their jobs.
But
the reality is that for every journal that rejects an
unacceptable paper, there are dozens of journals that
will
happily accept it and print it (and that number keeps
growing). So long as authors know that they can get
things
published without involving taxonomists, they will have
incentive to do exactly that.
So long as papers lacking taxonomic
involvement are being published, funding agencies
won't cut
off funding to the researchers publishing them -
they're
just looking for "deliverables". They're
effectively funding
homeopathic taxonomy; something that might look and
smell
like taxonomy but is so hopelessly diluted as to be
meaningless. We live in a world where Wikipedia has
higher
standards of verifiability and accountability than half
the
journals in print*, so expecting funding agencies to
look
for verifiability and accountability seems like it's
going
to get harder and harder, rather than the converse.
If the funding agencies don't see or
understand how their funding priorities thereby
undermine
legitimate science, then who will explain this to them,
and
convince them to stop supporting bad science? Unless
I'm
missing something, the people at the top of the
proverbial
pyramid are NOT listening to taxonomists, since we're
the
bearers of bad news, and I don't see what options we
have to
get them to listen to us. We have no lobby, no union,
no
advocacy group that can compel anyone to do anything on
our
behalf (what leverage do we have?), and - perhaps just
as
bad - even if we had their attention, we really don't
have
anything especially positive to say to those funding
agencies. There are an estimated 10 to 50 million
undescribed species out there (mostly arthropods), and
what's the average number of species that a
fully-funded
taxonomist can describe in a year? What are the odds
that
any random organism will even have a living taxonomist
who
can recognize it? It's hard to portray alpha taxonomy
as a
cost-effective investment, when it moves at a relative
snail's pace, and it's a very hard sales pitch
trying to
tell someone that something that isn't cost-effective
is
nonetheless an absolute necessity. If every dollar spent
on
genome sequencing was matched by 100 dollars on
taxonomy,
could we even hope to keep pace? In the face of this,
what
"collective stance" can we possibly take that
would be
persuasive?
In an ideal world, there would be a
Global Taxonomic Institute that would have centers of
research on every continent, staffed by thousands of
taxonomists worldwide, whose jobs would be to describe
and
identify organisms (including confirmation of others'
IDs),
whose salaries would be permanently supported, and
without
whose "seal of approval" nothing would get into
print that
relied upon identification. That is certainly never going
to
happen. A few of you may even recall the
"All-Species
Initiative", which proposed to do something along
those
lines, and it died on the vine.
Again, this still comes back to the
taxonomic impediment, but the gap between the
increasing
pressure for "deliverables" and the capacity
for
conventional taxonomy to deliver is getting worse. If
anyone
here sees a practical solution, I think we'd all love
to
hear it.
Sincerely,
--
* I was recently told, by an editor at
Wikipedia, that Wikipedia policy prohibits people from
correcting misspellings in Wikipedia of scientific
names
that appear in print, even if correcting those errors
is
mandated by the ICZN, and even if the person making the
corrections is an ICZN Commissioner, because Wikipedia
requires independent third-party verification for any
proposed edits (i.e., proof, in print, that there really
is
an error at all).
--
Doug Yanega Dept.
of Entomology Entomology Research
Museum
Univ. of California, Riverside, CA
92521-0314 skype: dyanega
phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer:
opinions are mine, not UCR's)
http://cache.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html
"There are some enterprises in
which a careful disorderliness
is the true
method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, Chap. 82
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