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[Taxacom] Question about labelling types

Michael A. Ivie mivie at montana.edu
Sun Feb 28 15:07:37 CST 2016


Disagree all you want, it does not matter.  Nothing in the Code or 
anything else will protect us from those with poor decision making 
skills, we just hope that usually people will make good decisions, for 
the others, we can only shake our heads.  But, trying to suggest rules 
like you have is simply pointless -- not going to happen, not going to 
be in the rules, not going to be followed, and for the most part, that 
is for the best.  Asserting an answer as if  there is such a rule, as 
you did here:
> Julio,
>
> They are syntypes, but the one labelled as holotype should be chosen as lectotype (if a lectotype is to be designated).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stephen
  is misleading and counter productive, as well as wrong.

One can only hope that the reviser will take all things into account and 
choose what will best contribute to stability, but there are those who 
think making changes makes them important. Can't fix those types, they 
are just something we  have to live with.

Mike

On 2/28/2016 1:40 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
> I disagree! All other things are often equal in this scenario. At any rate, we want to avoid scenarios like this hypothetical example:
>
> A reviser wants to be seen to be making a difference. Suppose there are 10 syntypes, 9 of which are the species that the original author intended to name, but 1 syntype is a poor specimen of a closely related long ago described species. So, the reviser designates the latter as lectotype, synonymises the species, and describes a new species with the other 9 syntypes! That might well best meet the needs of the reviser!
>
> Stephen
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 29/2/16, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu> wrote:
>
>   Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Question about labelling types
>   To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>   Received: Monday, 29 February, 2016, 9:15 AM
>   
>   All things are never
>   equal, the illegitimate holotype label is
>   meaningless and should be ignored when deciding
>   which Syntype best meets
>   the need of the
>   reviser doing the Lectotype designation.
>   
>   Mike
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