[Taxacom] IRMNG update

[Stephen Thorpe]

Tony,
The taxonomy here, and its nomenclatural implications, are still rather messy. Aellopos Münster, 1836 was based by monotypy on Aellopos elongatus Münster, 1836, which appears to be a name of uncertain application, thought to possibly be (e.g. by Smith Woodward, 1889) the same species as Spathobatis bugesiacus Thiollière, 1849, but no definite specific synonymy appears to have been made, and, if it were to be made, the valid name for Spathobatis bugesiacus Thiollière, 1849 would be Spathobatis elongatus (Münster, 1836). If the identity of the type species of Aellopos is uncertain, as it seems to be, then what basis is there for the generic synonymy? I suggest that this illustrates a certain amount of futility in trying to database names in the absence of a solid taxonomic basis (i.e. in advance of a modern taxonomic treatment to attempt to sort out all the problems).
Cheers,
Stephen

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On Wed, 31/8/16, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] IRMNG update
 To: "John Grehan" <calabar.john at gmail.com>
 Cc: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>, "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Wednesday, 31 August, 2016, 7:00 AM
 
 Hi all,
 
 Sorry, I posted the
 information below earlier, but inadvertently sent
 it to a single recipient and not the list as
 intended - here is is:
 
 The
 clearest synonymy assertion I can find is in Jordan,
 "The Genera
 of Fishes and a
 Classification of Fishes", on the page shown here:
 
 https://books.google.com.au/books?id=9LurAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA244&lpg=PA244&dq=Aellopos+Spathobatis&source=bl&ots=OOnA5blhY_&sig=m7uhjr6KvKNnB-MdK5SvJAJRgbs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwia_Y2I9-fOAhWDVZQKHTP_DiMQ6AEIbzAN#v=onepage&q=Aellopos%20Spathobatis&f=false
 
 The genera are also mentioned
 in this work by Woodward, 1889:
 IV,—Note
 on Rhinobatus bugesiacus—a Selachian Fish from the
 Lithographic Stone
 AS Woodward - Geological
 Magazine (Decade III), 1889.
 
 which can be seen on BHL here:
 http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/30859809
 
 Cheers - Tony
 
 
 
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 Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
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