[Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level Classification of All Living Organisms"
Libing Zhang
gonggashan at gmail.com
Sun Jul 12 00:18:50 CDT 2015
2015
Please respond off list. Thanks.
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Karen Wilson <
Karen.Wilson at rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
> My apologies if you interpreted what I wrote as a personal slight,
> Stephen. It was intended as a general statement.
>
> And there is persuasion present in science generally: unless a researcher
> presents a (scientifically) persuasive case for his/her hypothesis there is
> little chance of it being accepted. Mind you, that hasn't always helped:
> Galileo had to wait a long time for acceptance.
>
> Anyway, back to your scale insect for you and back to my sedge specimens
> for me.
>
> Karen W
>
> ________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Karen L. Wilson AM
> Senior Research Scientist, National Herbarium of New South Wales
>
> Adjunct Associate Professor, University of New England, Armidale, NSW
> Secretary, General Committee, International Code of Nomenclature for
> Algae, Fungi & Plants
>
> Botanic Gardens & Centennial Parklands
> T +61 (02) 9231 8137 | E karen.wilson at rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au
> Royal Botanic Gardens & Domain Trust, Mrs Macquaries Road, Sydney NSW
> 2000, Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Thorpe [mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz]
> Sent: Sunday, 12 July 2015 3:07 PM
> To: Wilson Karen
> Cc: Taxacom
> Subject: RE: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level
> Classification of All Living Organisms"
>
> That can be read to imply that I have whacky views on the relationships of
> taxa, which I don't. What you said does however highlight that ultimately
> it is more about "persuasion" than about "science". When politics enters
> the picture, it can be hard to distinguish between "consensus" and "mob
> rule". Anyway, I have more urgent matters to attend to, like trying to ID a
> scale insect I have just discovered all over planted kauri trees in
> downtown Auckland (see http://naturewatch.org.nz/observations/1747260) -
> I can find nothing relating to such scale insects on kauri (and CoL is
> unlikely to be of any help!)
>
> Stephen
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 12/7/15, Karen Wilson <Karen.Wilson at rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
>
> Subject: RE: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level
> Classification of All Living Organisms"
> To: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> Cc: "Taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Received: Sunday, 12 July, 2015, 4:57 PM
>
> It certainly wasn't
> so when I was involved with the CoL some years ago, Stephen, and I don't
> expect it has changed.
> The
> only caveat is, as Rich said, that this is a consensus (or rather,
> majority) view and therefore any researcher with hypotheses on taxon
> relationships widely different from most other workers in that particular
> field would have to persuade people that his/her hypothesis/view is more
> explanatory /believable and, most importantly, useful in this context than
> that/those of the other workers
>
> Karen W
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Karen L. Wilson AM
> Senior
> Research Scientist, National Herbarium of New South Wales
>
> Adjunct Associate Professor,
> University of New England, Armidale, NSW Secretary, General Committee,
> International Code of Nomenclature for Algae, Fungi & Plants
>
> Botanic Gardens &
> Centennial Parklands
> T +61 (02) 9231 8137 |
> E karen.wilson at rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au
> Royal Botanic Gardens & Domain Trust, Mrs Macquaries Road, Sydney NSW
> 2000, Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Thorpe [mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz]
>
> Sent: Sunday, 12 July 2015 1:41 PM
> To: Richard Jensen; Wilson Karen
> Cc: Taxacom
> Subject: Re:
> [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level Classification of
> All Living Organisms"
>
> >you could help to improve
> future versions by getting involved with the >project and contributing
> your expertise<
>
> I think it is
> by "invitation only" ...
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 12/7/15, Karen Wilson <Karen.Wilson at rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au>
> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re:
> [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level Classification of
> All Living Organisms"
> To: "Richard Jensen" <rjensen at saintmarys.edu>
> Cc: "Taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Received: Sunday, 12 July, 2015, 3:02 PM
>
> Exactly, Dick. This is
> intended
> as a pragmatic way to arrange/link
> information about all organisms so that the information can be made
> available electronically, no more nor less than that.
>
> It is
> unrealistic to think that such a classification can reflect all of the
> most up-to-date research findings - or that it can be changed very
> frequently, given the intellectual and keyboard effort needed to make
> such changes carefully to avoid losing links to the information.
>
>
> Congratulations to my former colleagues at Species 2000 and ITIS for
> producing this updated classification for the Catalogue of Life (and for
> use by any other digital system that needs one).
>
>
> For those picking holes in certain areas of it: you could help to
> improve future versions by getting involved with the project and
> contributing your expertise.
> Just a thought.
>
> Karen Wilson
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Karen L. Wilson AM
> Senior
> Research Scientist, National Herbarium of New South Wales
>
> Adjunct Associate
> Professor, University of New England, Armidale, NSW Secretary, General
> Committee, International Code of Nomenclature for Algae, Fungi & Plants
>
> Botanic Gardens &
> Centennial Parklands
> T +61 (02) 9231 8137 |
> E karen.wilson at rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au
> Royal Botanic Gardens & Domain Trust, Mrs Macquaries Road, Sydney NSW
> 2000, Australia
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu]
> On Behalf Of Richard Jensen
>
> Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2015 11:57 PM
> To:
> Stephen Thorpe
> Cc: Taxacom
>
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level
> Classification of All Living Organisms"
>
> Hi
> all,
>
> ... Based on what
> I've read here, the new classification attempts to provide a useful
> consensus.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Dick J
>
>
>
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