[Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level Classification of All Living Organisms"
John Grehan
calabar.john at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 14:23:11 CDT 2015
2015
At least the quotes show that the authors admit their work not be science
(if science is understood to be about the nature of reality beyond
'consensus' opinion).
John Grehan
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
wrote:
> Hmmm.... I've been deliberately quiet on this thread as well. I
> appreciate the viewpoints of Ken and others in terms of holophyly, the
> value of acknowledging paraphyletic taxa through Linnean nomenclature,
> etc. This is all good philosophical grit, and I enjoy the intellectual
> stimulation as much as anyone.
>
> However, this thread began (and remains?) relevant to the PLoS ONE
> publication of Ruggiero et al., which provides a generalized **CONSENSUS
> CLASSIFICATION**. Perhaps there is some misunderstanding on what is meant
> by this term (and the associated classification)? Anyone who read as far
> as the abstract of this paper should at least know that:
>
> "This classification is neither phylogenetic nor evolutionary but instead
> represents a consensus view that accommodates taxonomic choices and
> practical compromises among diverse expert opinions, public usages, and
> conflicting evidence about the boundaries between taxa and the ranks of
> major taxa, including kingdoms."
>
> And:
>
> "Beyond its immediate use as a management tool for the CoL and ITIS
> (Integrated Taxonomic Information System), it is immediately valuable as a
> reference for taxonomic and biodiversity research, as a tool for societal
> communication, and as a classificatory “backbone” for biodiversity
> databases, museum collections, libraries, and textbooks."
>
> In this context, it is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT that the subtaxa within a taxon
> are alphabetically arranged! It is absolutely NOT intended to reflect any
> sort of "naturalness" in patterns of evolution. Yes, it probably does
> kinda- sorta- happen to reflect modern views of evolutionary relationships
> (otherwise there wouldn't be much consensus behind it). But its function
> is to serve as a tool for informatics and generalized (i.e., highly
> simplified) organizational representation of life on Earth. As such, it is
> overwhelmingly valuable to the people for whom it was intended (see second
> quote above).
>
> Aloha,
> Rich
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf
> > Of Richard Zander
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 7:51 AM
> > To: TAXACOM
> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level
> > Classification of All Living Organisms"
> >
> > Maybe now is the time to add my perspective, backing up that of Ken.
> >
> > Phylogenetic classification is artificial. Artificial classifications
> use one set of
> > traits to group taxa, e.g., molecular races, shared traits (only).
> Artificial
> > classifications are repeatable, yet repeatability is not the only
> requirement of
> > science. Alphabetization is repeatable.
> >
> > Principles of phylogenetic classification are artificial. Some
> principles include
> > strict monophyly (so long Aves), putting known taxa at the top of a tree
> of
> > relationships ("tree-thinking") rather than in the tree when known (stem-
> > thinking), ignoring the probability of extinct paraphyly that casts
> doubt on
> > molecular trees, ignoring the evolutionary importance of autapomorphies,
> > asserting that only zero length branches imply a surviving ancestral
> taxon,
> > pretending that a cladogram is "the evidence" (when it is only some
> > evidence) and evolutionary theory is mere narrative . . . you can
> probably
> > think of more phylogenetic principles of classification that do violence
> to
> > evolutionary theory developed only after long struggle with artificial
> > classifiers of the past.
> >
> > Classification by phylogenetic principles is actually quite
> unprincipled, and
> > serves only to preserve a modification of older methods of numerical
> > taxonomy.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > -------
> > Richard H. Zander
> > Missouri Botanical Garden – 4344 Shaw Blvd. – St. Louis – Missouri –
> 63110 –
> > USA richard.zander at mobot.org Web sites:
> > http://www.mobot.org/plantscience/bfna/bfnamenu.htm and
> > http://www.mobot.org/plantscience/resbot/
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf
> > Of Nico Franz
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:16 PM
> > To: TAXACOM
> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level
> > Classification of All Living Organisms"
> >
> > Computational logic? Nico
> >
> > Reasoning over taxonomic change:
> > http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0118247
> > Taxonomy - for computers:
> > http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/07/09/022145
> >
> > -----
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015
> > From: Kenneth Kinman
> >
> > Hi Stephen,
> > Logically, we must remember that [...]
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