[Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level Classification of All Living Organisms"
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Thu Jul 9 15:27:28 CDT 2015
2015
>My question is, do I now report migratory bird collections to my state herpetologist?<
Or to your fisheries service! :)
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On Fri, 10/7/15, Sagebiel, J. Chris <sagebiel at austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level Classification of All Living Organisms"
To: "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Received: Friday, 10 July, 2015, 4:37 AM
Mammals coming off of the synapsid
lineage are not at all within Reptilia . . .
My question is, do I now report migratory bird collections
to my state herpetologist?
Chris Sagebiel
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Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 11:16 AM
To: Robin Leech
Cc: taxacom
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher
Level Classification of All Living Organisms"
Perhaps I should look at the paper before jumping in, but
why not include mammals under 'reptiles' as well?
John Grehan
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Robin Leech <releech at telus.net>
wrote:
> Tony,
> Probably inevitable - the more we find out, the closer
the two
> (reptiles and birds) seem to be.
> Robi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu]
On Behalf Of
> Tony Rees
> Sent: July-09-15 1:10 AM
> To: Kenneth Kinman
> Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A
Higher Level
> Classification of All Living Organisms"
>
> I note that (class) Aves has now been subsumed into
class Reptilia for
> the first time - brave or inevitable??
>
> - Tony
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Stephen,
My biggest problem with this
> > classification (and many others) is that the
subtaxa within a taxon
> > are alphabetically arranged, which automatically
and immediately
> > affects their naturalness from the start.
Paleognathae is thus
> > placed after Neognathae, and worse yet Aves is
placed before all the
> > other reptiles. The Superclass Angiospermae
is a mess, which for
> > some reason they only classify as a single
Class. Therefore, the
> > subtaxa are an unnatural mess. Although I
nitpick about the details
> > of the cladistic classifications of angiosperms,
at least they are
> > fairly
> natural (even with their unnatural rejection of a
> > few very natural and useful taxa).
Neomycota
> > is listed as Dikarya, so it comes before
Eomycota. And they don't
> > even mention the name Eumycota (which has always
been more
> > informative than "Fungi"). The mammal orders
Cingulata and Pilosa
> > aren't listed together at all, and how many
non-mammalogists even
> > know what animals those taxa include? And
totally separating
> > Archaebacteria from their relatives Posibacteria
is a horrible
> > oversight that has plagued classifications for
well over 20 years.
> >
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> >
> > > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 18:11:57 -0700
> > > From: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
> > > To: Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu;
tonyrees49 at gmail.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et
al. "A Higher Level
> > Classification of All Living Organisms"
> > >
> > > The problem with it being "followed in future
by both ITIS and
> > > Catalogue
> > of Life" is that new developments, based on
scientific evidence,
> > will not be considered (at least not until some
big revised version
> > of the present paper is published). So,
bioinformatics and science
> > part ways
> for a while.
> > It is really just a case of "choose your own
classification", and if
> > you wish to choose to follow Ruggiero et al.'s
paper, you can, but
> > there may be better alternatives.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > On Thu, 9/7/15, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Subject: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero
et al. "A Higher Level
> > Classification of All Living Organisms"
> > > To: "taxacom" <Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> > > Received: Thursday, 9 July, 2015, 12:52
PM
> > >
> > > Dear Taxacomers,
> > >
> > > Since I did not see this mentioned on
Taxacom earlier (perhaps I
> > > missed it), list members may be
interested to know that Michael
> > > Ruggiero et al.'s paper "A Higher Level
Classification of All
> > > Living Organisms" has been out in
PLOS One since 20 April 2015,
> > > the link is here:
> > >
> > >
> > http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.011
> > 9248
> > >
> > > This is an internally consistent
treatment of "all" extant taxa
> > > down to the level of Order (in most
cases), to be followed in
> > > future by both ITIS and Catalogue
of Life I understand. For
> > > those interested in going further
to the level of family, I have
> > > come across a spreadsheet with the
latter information prepared
> > > by the same authors (possibly slightly
earlier
> > > version) labelled "GGI family data" at
http://ggi.eol.org/downloads .
> > >
> > > Of course the above treatments do not
include fossil
> > > orders/families but maybe these will be
in scope at some point in
> > > the future
> > > (??)
> > >
> > > Hoping this is of interest to at least
some Taxacom readers,
> > >
> > > Best regards - Tony Rees, New South
Wales, Australia
> > >
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