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[Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level Classification of All Living Organisms"

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Thu Jul 9 15:27:28 CDT 2015


>My question is, do I now report migratory bird collections to my state herpetologist?<

Or to your fisheries service! :)


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On Fri, 10/7/15, Sagebiel, J. Chris <sagebiel at austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level Classification of All Living Organisms"
 To: "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Friday, 10 July, 2015, 4:37 AM
 
 Mammals coming off of the synapsid
 lineage are not at all within Reptilia . . . 
 
 My question is, do I now report migratory bird collections
 to my state herpetologist?
 
 Chris Sagebiel
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu]
 On Behalf Of John Grehan
 Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 11:16 AM
 To: Robin Leech
 Cc: taxacom
 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher
 Level Classification of All Living Organisms"
 
 Perhaps I should look at the paper before jumping in, but
 why not include mammals under 'reptiles' as well?
 
 John Grehan
 
 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Robin Leech <releech at telus.net>
 wrote:
 
 > Tony,
 > Probably inevitable - the more we find out, the closer
 the two 
 > (reptiles and birds) seem to be.
 > Robi
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu]
 On Behalf Of 
 > Tony Rees
 > Sent: July-09-15 1:10 AM
 > To: Kenneth Kinman
 > Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
 > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A
 Higher Level 
 > Classification of All Living Organisms"
 >
 > I note that (class) Aves has now been subsumed into
 class Reptilia for 
 > the first time - brave or inevitable??
 >
 > - Tony
 >
 > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com>
 wrote:
 >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Hi Stephen,         
            
    My biggest problem with this
 > > classification (and many others) is that the
 subtaxa within a taxon 
 > > are alphabetically arranged, which automatically
 and immediately 
 > > affects their naturalness from the start. 
 Paleognathae is thus 
 > > placed after Neognathae, and worse yet Aves is
 placed before all the 
 > > other reptiles.  The Superclass Angiospermae
 is a mess, which for 
 > > some reason they only classify as a single
 Class.  Therefore, the 
 > > subtaxa are an unnatural mess.  Although I
 nitpick about the details 
 > > of the cladistic classifications of angiosperms,
 at least they are 
 > > fairly
 > natural (even with their unnatural rejection of a
 > > few very natural and useful taxa).   
                
           Neomycota
 > > is listed as Dikarya, so it comes before
 Eomycota.  And they don't 
 > > even mention the name Eumycota (which has always
 been more 
 > > informative than "Fungi").  The mammal orders
 Cingulata and Pilosa 
 > > aren't listed together at all, and how many
 non-mammalogists even 
 > > know what animals those taxa include?  And
 totally separating 
 > > Archaebacteria from their relatives Posibacteria
 is a horrible 
 > > oversight that has plagued classifications for
 well over 20 years.
 > >
 ---------------Ken--------------------------------------------------
 > > --
 > >
 --------------------------------------------------------------------
 > > --
 > > --------------------------------------
 > >
 > > > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 18:11:57 -0700
 > > > From: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
 > > > To: Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu;
 tonyrees49 at gmail.com
 > > > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et
 al. "A Higher Level
 > >  Classification of All Living Organisms"
 > > >
 > > > The problem with it being "followed in future
 by both ITIS and 
 > > > Catalogue
 > > of Life" is that new developments, based on
 scientific evidence, 
 > > will not be considered (at least not until some
 big revised version 
 > > of the present paper is published). So,
 bioinformatics and science 
 > > part ways
 > for a while.
 > > It is really just a case of "choose your own
 classification", and if 
 > > you wish to choose to follow Ruggiero et al.'s
 paper, you can, but 
 > > there may be better alternatives.
 > > >
 > > > Stephen
 > > >
 > > > --------------------------------------------
 > > > On Thu, 9/7/15, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 > > >
 > > >  Subject: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero
 et al. "A Higher Level
 > > Classification of All Living Organisms"
 > > >  To: "taxacom" <Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 > > >  Received: Thursday, 9 July, 2015, 12:52
 PM
 > > >
 > > >  Dear Taxacomers,
 > > >
 > > >  Since I did not see this mentioned on
 Taxacom earlier  (perhaps I 
 > > > missed  it), list members may be
 interested to know that Michael 
 > > > Ruggiero et al.'s  paper "A Higher Level
 Classification of All 
 > > > Living  Organisms" has been out  in
 PLOS One since 20 April 2015, 
 > > > the link is here:
 > > >
 > > >
 > > http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.011
 > > 9248
 > > >
 > > >  This is an internally consistent
 treatment of "all" extant  taxa 
 > > > down to the  level of Order (in most
 cases), to be followed in 
 > > > future by  both ITIS and  Catalogue
 of Life I understand. For 
 > > > those interested in  going further
 to  the level of family, I have 
 > > > come across a spreadsheet with  the
 latter  information prepared 
 > > > by the same authors (possibly slightly 
 earlier
 > > >  version) labelled "GGI family data" at
 http://ggi.eol.org/downloads .
 > > >
 > > >  Of course the above treatments do not
 include fossil  
 > > > orders/families but  maybe these will be
 in scope at some point in 
 > > > the future
 > > >  (??)
 > > >
 > > >  Hoping this is of interest to at least
 some Taxacom  readers,
 > > >
 > > >  Best regards - Tony Rees, New South
 Wales, Australia  
 > > >
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