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[Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level Classification of All Living Organisms"

John Grehan calabar.john at gmail.com
Thu Jul 9 11:15:46 CDT 2015 

Perhaps I should look at the paper before jumping in, but why not include
mammals under 'reptiles' as well?

John Grehan

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Robin Leech <releech at telus.net> wrote:

> Tony,
> Probably inevitable - the more we find out, the closer the two (reptiles
> and birds) seem to be.
> Robi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of
> Tony Rees
> Sent: July-09-15 1:10 AM
> To: Kenneth Kinman
> Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level
> Classification of All Living Organisms"
>
> I note that (class) Aves has now been subsumed into class Reptilia for the
> first time - brave or inevitable??
>
> - Tony
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Stephen,                         My biggest problem with this
> > classification (and many others) is that the subtaxa within a taxon
> > are alphabetically arranged, which automatically and immediately
> > affects their naturalness from the start.  Paleognathae is thus placed
> > after Neognathae, and worse yet Aves is placed before all the other
> > reptiles.  The Superclass Angiospermae is a mess, which for some
> > reason they only classify as a single Class.  Therefore, the subtaxa
> > are an unnatural mess.  Although I nitpick about the details of the
> > cladistic classifications of angiosperms, at least they are fairly
> natural (even with their unnatural rejection of a
> > few very natural and useful taxa).                              Neomycota
> > is listed as Dikarya, so it comes before Eomycota.  And they don't
> > even mention the name Eumycota (which has always been more informative
> > than "Fungi").  The mammal orders Cingulata and Pilosa aren't listed
> > together at all, and how many non-mammalogists even know what animals
> > those taxa include?  And totally separating Archaebacteria from their
> > relatives Posibacteria is a horrible oversight that has plagued
> > classifications for well over 20 years.
> > ---------------Ken----------------------------------------------------
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------------------------------------
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 18:11:57 -0700
> > > From: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
> > > To: Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; tonyrees49 at gmail.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level
> >  Classification of All Living Organisms"
> > >
> > > The problem with it being "followed in future by both ITIS and
> > > Catalogue
> > of Life" is that new developments, based on scientific evidence, will
> > not be considered (at least not until some big revised version of the
> > present paper is published). So, bioinformatics and science part ways
> for a while.
> > It is really just a case of "choose your own classification", and if
> > you wish to choose to follow Ruggiero et al.'s paper, you can, but
> > there may be better alternatives.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > On Thu, 9/7/15, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Subject: [Taxacom] New paper: Ruggiero et al. "A Higher Level
> > Classification of All Living Organisms"
> > >  To: "taxacom" <Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> > >  Received: Thursday, 9 July, 2015, 12:52 PM
> > >
> > >  Dear Taxacomers,
> > >
> > >  Since I did not see this mentioned on Taxacom earlier  (perhaps I
> > > missed  it), list members may be interested to know that Michael
> > > Ruggiero et al.'s  paper "A Higher Level Classification of All
> > > Living  Organisms" has been out  in PLOS One since 20 April 2015,
> > > the link is here:
> > >
> > >
> > http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0119248
> > >
> > >  This is an internally consistent treatment of "all" extant
> > >  taxa down to the
> > >  level of Order (in most cases), to be followed in future by
> > >  both ITIS and
> > >  Catalogue of Life I understand. For those interested in
> > >  going further to
> > >  the level of family, I have come across a spreadsheet with
> > >  the latter
> > >  information prepared by the same authors (possibly slightly
> > >  earlier
> > >  version) labelled "GGI family data" at http://ggi.eol.org/downloads .
> > >
> > >  Of course the above treatments do not include fossil
> > >  orders/families but
> > >  maybe these will be in scope at some point in the future
> > >  (??)
> > >
> > >  Hoping this is of interest to at least some Taxacom
> > >  readers,
> > >
> > >  Best regards - Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
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