[Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs,
best to disregard it now
Scott Thomson
scott.thomson321 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 29 21:00:15 CDT 2015
2015
I would say your correct on that one Stephen, I will let him know.
Cheers, Scott
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
> wrote:
> Well I did actually give you one example! One long time editor who, barely
> speaks English, and who has just been promoted to admin status, doesn't
> know the difference between a synonym and a homonym, and nobody is
> reviewing his edits.
> http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Austrophthiracarus_longisetosus
>
> Stephen
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 30/4/15, JF Mate <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs, best to
> disregard it now
> To: "Taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Received: Thursday, 30 April, 2015, 12:56 PM
>
> To be honest I really
> don´t care for the fight. I only care to know
> what it is meant by Wikispecies not being
> reliable. If somebody can
> just give us the
> facts that would be OK. Otherwise we can bury the
> thread here and now.
>
> Jason
>
> On 30
> April 2015 at 01:19, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> wrote:
> > I was waiting for your response,
> Scott, since you are one of the major players in the
> dispute, i.e. your hands are dirty! You can turn it into an
> ad hominem argument against me if you wish, but it
> doesn't change the facts of what I said, namely that
> Wikispecies is no longer a reliable site, and should be
> diregarded. Now you can go back to your Wikispecies agenda
> of trying to rewrite the history of reptile taxonomy.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 30/4/15, Scott Thomson <scott.thomson321 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Subject:
> Re: [Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs,
> best to disregard it now
> > To: "JF Mate" <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> > Received: Thursday, 30 April, 2015,
> 11:14 AM
> >
> > I did
> not relise this had
> > been crossposted
> to Taxacom as well as ICZN
> > List.. My
> response over there was:
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > Stephen that is low, Wikimedia cannot
> defend
> > themselves here and you
> have
> > cherry picked
> > one item that agrees with your
> statement. I am not going
> > to
> > argue with you here, since it is not
> the
> > ICZN lists business, however
> if
> > you are
> >
> going to say you have been blocked maybe you should say
> why
> > you
> > have
> been permanently banned from the
> >
> English Wikipedia and Wikispecies and
> >
> are on
> > blocks for Meta-Wiki and Wiki
> Commons. Thats 4 sites, in my
> > 8
> years
> > as an editor in Wikimedia
> although I
> > am sure there are others,
> and worse, I
> > personally have not seen
> anyone else get a ban
> > like that so
> quickly. Your
> > hatred of
> > wikimedia is very evident in what you
> have said in recent
> > times,
> > it extends clearly from the treatment
> > you received. Hence anything you say
> > anywhere on Wikispecies or any other
> Wikimedia
> > Project needs to be
> taken
> > with a grain of
> > salt and is clearly dipped in acid. I
> have told you
> > before
> > you need to let this go for a while,
> > let it calm down. I even said I would
> > propose the removal of the bans, but you
> have
> > to stop and let it go and fix
> > the damage
> >
> first.
> >
> > Now
> please, let it
> > go this is not the
> forum for it.
> >
> -------------------------------------
> >
> > In response to
> Jason, it is a
> > playground fight. I
> was not involved in it,
> > made sure I
> stayed out of it, but I have had to
> >
> watch it. Not pretty.
> >
> > Cheers, Scott
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:19 PM, JF Mate
> <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe you
> >
> should copy and paste the actual example/s as succintly
> > as
> > > possible.
> Otherwise it just looks
> > like a
> playground fight.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> On 30/04/2015
> > 8:03 AM, "Stephen
> Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > There has been a
> "military
> > takeover" of
> Wikispecies, by people who know
> > >
> > not what they are doing (see, for
> > example, this article
> > > > http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Austrophthiracarus_longisetosus
> > in
> > > >
> which homonymy has been
> > confused with
> synonymy!) I have been excluded and
> >
> > > blocked from editing the site in
> > future. The following comment, posted
> by
> > > > another editor who is
> alarmed by what
> > is happening (please
> excuse his
> > > >
> > English) is illustrative of the current
> situation, so I copy
> > it below
> > > from
> > >
> >
> > the Wikispecies Village Pump:
> > > >
> > >
> > Reducing time for working at
> >
> Wikispecies
> > > >
> > >
> > > At
> Wikispecies about 2 million taxon pages are missing.
> > Instead of really
> >
> > > contributing to
> >
> Wikispecies, that is adding new pages, there is a playing
> > > > around with an AWB and
> modifying or
> > deleting things that do
> no harm, like
> > >
> > > the double square brackets of taxon
> names on hundreds
> > of thousand
> pages.
> > > > And proudly is
> > told of "contributions". That
> are no
> > contributions. There
> > > is
> > > >
> nothing professional in it.
> >
> Wikispecies is the only Wiki that expects to
> > > > have users from the
> scientific
> > community. Observing what
> is done at
> > >
> > > present, will not attract such
> users. It will lead to a
> > number of
> closed
> > > > Wikis for groups
> > of organisms, as first ones are already
> existing, so
> > > that
> > > > such
> >
> unprofessional actions are not possible.
> > > > I'll considerably reduce
> my
> > working time here under the
> present
> > >
> >
> > circumstances. Kempf EK (talk) 16:18, 28 April 2015
> > (UTC)
> > >
> >
> >
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