[Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs,
best to disregard it now
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Wed Apr 29 20:16:53 CDT 2015
2015
Well I did actually give you one example! One long time editor who, barely speaks English, and who has just been promoted to admin status, doesn't know the difference between a synonym and a homonym, and nobody is reviewing his edits. http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Austrophthiracarus_longisetosus
Stephen
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On Thu, 30/4/15, JF Mate <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs, best to disregard it now
To: "Taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Received: Thursday, 30 April, 2015, 12:56 PM
To be honest I really
don´t care for the fight. I only care to know
what it is meant by Wikispecies not being
reliable. If somebody can
just give us the
facts that would be OK. Otherwise we can bury the
thread here and now.
Jason
On 30
April 2015 at 01:19, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
wrote:
> I was waiting for your response,
Scott, since you are one of the major players in the
dispute, i.e. your hands are dirty! You can turn it into an
ad hominem argument against me if you wish, but it
doesn't change the facts of what I said, namely that
Wikispecies is no longer a reliable site, and should be
diregarded. Now you can go back to your Wikispecies agenda
of trying to rewrite the history of reptile taxonomy.
>
> Stephen
>
>
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> On Thu, 30/4/15, Scott Thomson <scott.thomson321 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject:
Re: [Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs,
best to disregard it now
> To: "JF Mate" <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Received: Thursday, 30 April, 2015,
11:14 AM
>
> I did
not relise this had
> been crossposted
to Taxacom as well as ICZN
> List.. My
response over there was:
>
> --------------------------------
> Stephen that is low, Wikimedia cannot
defend
> themselves here and you
have
> cherry picked
> one item that agrees with your
statement. I am not going
> to
> argue with you here, since it is not
the
> ICZN lists business, however
if
> you are
>
going to say you have been blocked maybe you should say
why
> you
> have
been permanently banned from the
>
English Wikipedia and Wikispecies and
>
are on
> blocks for Meta-Wiki and Wiki
Commons. Thats 4 sites, in my
> 8
years
> as an editor in Wikimedia
although I
> am sure there are others,
and worse, I
> personally have not seen
anyone else get a ban
> like that so
quickly. Your
> hatred of
> wikimedia is very evident in what you
have said in recent
> times,
> it extends clearly from the treatment
> you received. Hence anything you say
> anywhere on Wikispecies or any other
Wikimedia
> Project needs to be
taken
> with a grain of
> salt and is clearly dipped in acid. I
have told you
> before
> you need to let this go for a while,
> let it calm down. I even said I would
> propose the removal of the bans, but you
have
> to stop and let it go and fix
> the damage
>
first.
>
> Now
please, let it
> go this is not the
forum for it.
>
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>
> In response to
Jason, it is a
> playground fight. I
was not involved in it,
> made sure I
stayed out of it, but I have had to
>
watch it. Not pretty.
>
> Cheers, Scott
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:19 PM, JF Mate
<aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe you
>
should copy and paste the actual example/s as succintly
> as
> > possible.
Otherwise it just looks
> like a
playground fight.
> >
> > Jason
> >
On 30/04/2015
> 8:03 AM, "Stephen
Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> > wrote:
>
>
> > > There has been a
"military
> takeover" of
Wikispecies, by people who know
> >
> not what they are doing (see, for
> example, this article
> > > http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Austrophthiracarus_longisetosus
> in
> > >
which homonymy has been
> confused with
synonymy!) I have been excluded and
>
> > blocked from editing the site in
> future. The following comment, posted
by
> > > another editor who is
alarmed by what
> is happening (please
excuse his
> > >
> English) is illustrative of the current
situation, so I copy
> it below
> > from
> >
>
> the Wikispecies Village Pump:
> > >
> >
> Reducing time for working at
>
Wikispecies
> > >
> >
> > At
Wikispecies about 2 million taxon pages are missing.
> Instead of really
>
> > contributing to
>
Wikispecies, that is adding new pages, there is a playing
> > > around with an AWB and
modifying or
> deleting things that do
no harm, like
> >
> > the double square brackets of taxon
names on hundreds
> of thousand
pages.
> > > And proudly is
> told of "contributions". That
are no
> contributions. There
> > is
> > >
nothing professional in it.
>
Wikispecies is the only Wiki that expects to
> > > have users from the
scientific
> community. Observing what
is done at
> >
> > present, will not attract such
users. It will lead to a
> number of
closed
> > > Wikis for groups
> of organisms, as first ones are already
existing, so
> > that
> > > such
>
unprofessional actions are not possible.
> > > I'll considerably reduce
my
> working time here under the
present
> >
>
> circumstances. Kempf EK (talk) 16:18, 28 April 2015
> (UTC)
> >
>
>
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