[Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs, best to disregard it now

Wed Apr 29 18:19:37 CDT 2015

I was waiting for your response, Scott, since you are one of the major players in the dispute, i.e. your hands are dirty! You can turn it into an ad hominem argument against me if you wish, but it doesn't change the facts of what I said, namely that Wikispecies is no longer a reliable site, and should be diregarded. Now you can go back to your Wikispecies agenda of trying to rewrite the history of reptile taxonomy.

Stephen

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On Thu, 30/4/15, Scott Thomson <scott.thomson321 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Wikispecies has gone to the dogs,	best to disregard it now
 To: "JF Mate" <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>
 Cc: "Taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Thursday, 30 April, 2015, 11:14 AM

 I did not relise this had
 been crossposted to Taxacom as well as ICZN
 List.. My response over there was:

 --------------------------------
 Stephen that is low, Wikimedia cannot defend
 themselves here and you have
 cherry picked
 one item that agrees with your statement. I am not going
 to
 argue with you here, since it is not the
 ICZN lists business, however if
 you are
 going to say you have been blocked maybe you should say why
 you
 have been permanently banned from the
 English Wikipedia and Wikispecies and
 are on
 blocks for Meta-Wiki and Wiki Commons. Thats 4 sites, in my
 8 years
 as an editor in Wikimedia although I
 am sure there are others, and worse, I
 personally have not seen anyone else get a ban
 like that so quickly. Your
 hatred of
 wikimedia is very evident in what you have said in recent
 times,
 it extends clearly from the treatment
 you received. Hence anything you say
 anywhere on Wikispecies or any other Wikimedia
 Project needs to be taken
 with a grain of
 salt and is clearly dipped in acid. I have told you
 before
 you need to let this go for a while,
 let it calm down. I even said I would
 propose the removal of the bans, but you have
 to stop and let it go and fix
 the damage
 first.

 Now please, let it
 go this is not the forum for it.
 -------------------------------------

 In response to Jason, it is a
 playground fight. I was not involved in it,
 made sure I stayed out of it, but I have had to
 watch it. Not pretty.

 Cheers, Scott

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:19 PM, JF Mate <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>
 wrote:

 > Maybe you
 should copy and paste the actual example/s as succintly
 as
 > possible. Otherwise it just looks
 like a playground fight.
 >
 > Jason
 > On 30/04/2015
 8:03 AM, "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
 > wrote:
 >
 > > There has been a "military
 takeover" of Wikispecies, by people who know
 > > not what they are doing (see, for
 example, this article
 > > http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Austrophthiracarus_longisetosus
 in
 > > which homonymy has been
 confused with synonymy!) I have been excluded and
 > > blocked from editing the site in
 future. The following comment, posted by
 > > another editor who is alarmed by what
 is happening (please excuse his
 > >
 English) is illustrative of the current situation, so I copy
 it below
 > from
 > >
 the Wikispecies Village Pump:
 > >
 > > Reducing time for working at
 Wikispecies
 > >
 >
 > At Wikispecies about 2 million taxon pages are missing.
 Instead of really
 > > contributing to
 Wikispecies, that is adding new pages, there is a playing
 > > around with an AWB and modifying or
 deleting things that do no harm, like
 >
 > the double square brackets of taxon names on hundreds
 of thousand pages.
 > > And proudly is
 told of "contributions". That are no
 contributions. There
 > is
 > > nothing professional in it.
 Wikispecies is the only Wiki that expects to
 > > have users from the scientific
 community. Observing what is done at
 >
 > present, will not attract such users. It will lead to a
 number of closed
 > > Wikis for groups
 of organisms, as first ones are already existing, so
 > that
 > > such
 unprofessional actions are not possible.
 > > I'll considerably reduce my
 working time here under the present
 >
 > circumstances. Kempf EK (talk) 16:18, 28 April 2015
 (UTC)
 > >
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