[Taxacom] [iczn-list] provisions to the Code
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Wed Apr 16 01:58:58 CDT 2014
2014
So, the ICZN ruling has to be something along the lines of invalidating any publication with Hoser as *editor*, i.e., deeming him to be an unfit editor of scientific publications, but making no judgement about him qua taxonomist. It isn't an ideal solution, but it may well be the best one. I can think of some potential problems still, but we have to do something now, I think ...
Stephen
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On Wed, 16/4/14, Philipp Wagner <philipp.wagner.zfmk at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] [iczn-list] provisions to the Code
To: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>, "Wolfgang Wuster" <w.wuster at bangor.ac.uk>, "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Received: Wednesday, 16 April, 2014, 6:41 AM
> All they need do is deem his
journal AJH to be an invalid publication.
That would be great - but it would not stop him. In a time
where it is so extremly easy to run a self-published
e-journal he would just rename it and publish everything
again.
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>> But to get back to the crux of the matter. Some on
the list want to nix
>> what Hoser has done because they claim the specimen
(with a specimen
>> number) that he specifically designated "did not
exist". That is hogwash.
>> And is bordering on censorship, in my opinion.
>
> I think we need to stop this talk of censorship.
>
> According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, "to
censor" is defined as "to examine books, movies, letters,
etc., in order to remove things that are considered to be
offensive, immoral, harmful to society, etc."
>
> Nobody is proposing to do such a thing.
>
> However, there is a difference between the right to
free expression and the right to be taken seriously. The
former is (in my book) absolute, the latter does not exist.
The problem is that the letter of the Code seeks to bestow
that non-existing latter right on the authors of names
irrespective of merit. That's what many who consider
themselves scientists first and nomenclaturists second have
a problem with. However, that does not constitute
censorship.
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> Cheers,
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> Wolfgang
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