[Taxacom] [iczn-list] provisions to the Code

[Stephen Thorpe]

No way! Cristian, you are reading into the Code your own interpretation. Check the glossary: 
?concept, hypothetical, n.
A taxonomic concept that when published contained no animal then known to exist in nature, past or present, but only in the mind of the author whether a prediction or not [Art. 1.3.1].
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This is not the situation with Hoser's turtles (or else they would be equally hypothetical when Thomas et al. renamed them!)
?
Stephen


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From: Cristian Ruiz Altaba <cruizaltaba at dgcc.caib.es>
To: Wolfgang Wuster <w.wuster at bangor.ac.uk> 
Cc: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>; "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] [iczn-list] provisions to the Code



It's really much easier.?

Hoser designated as holotype something he had never actually seen, based entirely on the unwarranted assumption that the selected turtle should have been a member of what somebody else had identified as a distinct taxon on the basis of some other specimens. That's a long stretch. Taking it for granted is trying to fool everybody.?

Thus, Hoser's description is based on an entirely conjectural identification. As an inevitable consequence, his proposed new taxon is simply a hypothetical concept. This is expicitly outside the Code (Art. 1.3.1).?

End of the game.

Best,

Cristian R. Altaba?



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Isn't that rather like blaming the cat for pulling when someone is holding its tail?

Wolfgang


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From: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
Sent: 14 April 2014 08:25
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; Wolfgang Wuster
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] [iczn-list] provisions to the Code

Unless the ICZN rules that Hoser's names are unavailable, they cannot be ignored (without jeopardising the communication and information retrieval function of zoological nomenclature)

Stephen
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