[Taxacom] Validity of species/subspecies

Thu Apr 10 01:59:13 CDT 2014

Karen is correct. Under the ICZN, the principle of co-ordination applies,
and new names at certain levels (such as subspecies)  are deemed to have
been automatically introduced at the same time should they be used at a
different rank (such as a species).  So, should I elevate  XX yy n subsp zz
Blank 2014 to species, the correct name is  XX yy Blank 2014.

David Patterson

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Karen Wilson <
Karen.Wilson at rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au> wrote:

> Spot on, Ayhan!
>
> I was drafting a reply along the same lines when yours appeared.
>
> You are correct that, if it is a plant, then the International Code of
> Nomenclature for algae, fungi and plants applies, and this new species name
> XX zz would be fine since a name only has priority in the rank in which it
> was published (see http://www.iapt-taxon.org/nomen/main.php?page=art11 -
> Art. 11.2).
>
> However, the Code does also RECOMMEND that such infraspecific epithets
> should be re-used at species level unless already used for a different
> species in that genus (see
> http://www.iapt-taxon.org/nomen/main.php?page=art24 - Recommendation
> 24B.2). So you could have Xx yy, Javier, as long as yy hasn't already been
> used in genus XX.
>
> If an animal, then the Zoological Code applies and I think the answer
> would be different - but a zoologist needs to confirm that.
>
> Regards
> Karen W
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Ayhan Senkardesler
> Sent: Thursday, 10 April 2014 4:41 PM
> To: TAXACOM at MAILMAN.NHM.KU.EDU
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Validity of species/subspecies
>
> Dear Javier,
>
> My question would be: Are talking about plants or animals?
>
> In ICNafp:
>
> "11.2. A name has no priority outside the rank in which it is published."
> (see http://www.iapt-taxon.org/nomen/main.php?page=art11)
>
> I know that it sounds unfair, however, you can give a brand-new name to
> subspecies, if you raising it to species level; and you will get the
> authorship too, e.g. *Xx zz Javier*.
>
> It is up to you (or to the author): She/he can propose a new combination
> at species level (this would be wise in my opinion), or give a new name
> with new authorship (this I called tricky way).
>
> On the other hand, I don't know the situation in Zoological Code.
> Therefore I was asking you whether you talking about plants or animals.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayhan
>
> On 10.04.2014 09:20, Javier Luque wrote:
> > Dear Taxacomers,
> >
> > A quick question. Imagine two subspecies: the extant *Xx xx xx, *and
> > the fossil *Xx xx yy*.  Someone proposed that the fossil subspecies
> > was different enough from species *Xx xx* to deserve full specific
> > status, and therefore named it *Xx zz**.  *Note that, instead of
> > elevating subspecies *Xx xx yy* to the species rank (i.e. *Xx yy*),
> > the author gave it a new specific epithet (i.e. *Xx zz*).  Here is the
> > question: is *Xx zz *a valid species?  Or should the subspecies *yy*
> > have priority as the specific epithet?
> >
> > Thanks for your time and help.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Javier
> >
>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------
> Dr. Ayhan Senkardesler
> Ege University Faculty of Science Dept. of Biology
> http://akademik.ege.edu.tr/?q=tr/bilgiler&id(08
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