[Taxacom] Cinnamomum cassia and Neolitsia cassia

[Dr Gurcharan Singh]

Being a taxonomist interacting in taxonomic Forum I am seeking scientific
answers to scientific questions, in scientific databases and publications,
not popular books, which frequently confuse you.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor, Department of Botany, SGTB Khalsa College
University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018
Phone: 01125518297; Mobile: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Paul van Rijckevorsel
<dipteryx at freeler.nl>wrote:

> Well, I am just pointing out that the "Neolitsea cassia (L.) Kosterm
> (Grey bollywood, smooth-barb bollygum)" that you were asking
> about is based on a misapplication of the name Neolitsea cassia
> (L.) Kosterm. in a number of popular handbooks. If that does
> not suit you, I can not help that.
>
> Paul
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dr Gurcharan Singh
>   To: Paul van Rijckevorsel
>   Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>   Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:59 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Cinnamomum cassia and Neolitsia cassia
>
>
>   Dear Dr. Paul Rijckevorsel
>   We have to understand the difference between misapplied Neolitsea cassia
> and Neolitsea cassia (L.) Kosterm. The question is the application of
> Laurus cassia L. as basionym that needs to be resolved.
>       Even APNI regards N. cassia (L.) Kosterm and N. australiensis
> Kosterm as two distinct species.
>        The question here is Cinnamomum cassia (L.) Presl vs Neolitsea
> cassia (L.) Kosterm and the basionym Laurus cassia L.
>
>
>       I fail to understand the need for your comment "So, no nomenclatural
> wrongdoing here!"  and may I ask by whom GRIN or The Plant List?
>
>
>
>
>   --
>   Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>   Retired Associate Professor, Department of Botany, SGTB Khalsa College
>   University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>   Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018
>   Phone: 01125518297; Mobile: 9810359089
>
>   http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
>
>   On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Paul van Rijckevorsel <
> dipteryx at freeler.nl> wrote:
>
>     The taxonomy of the Lauraceae remains subject to revision,
>     and I am not up on the latest developments, but apparently
>     that is not necessary in this case: Grey bollywood and
>     smooth-barb bollygum are obviously quite local names.
>     Some Googling shows that Neolitsea cassia was misapplied
>     in a number of handbooks to what is now Neolitsea australiensis
>     (see APNI at  http://www.anbg.gov.au/cgi-bin/apni )
>
>     So, no nomenclatural wrongdoing here!
>
>     Paul
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Dr Gurcharan Singh" <singhg at sify.com>
>     To: <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>     Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:28 AM
>     Subject: [Taxacom] Cinnamomum cassia and Neolitsia cassia
>
>
>
>     > Could any member help me in solving this mystery
>     >
>     > Cinnamomum cassia (L.) J. Presl (Chinese cinnamom, Chinese cassia)
> and
>     > Neolitsea cassia (L.) Kosterm (Grey bollywood, smooth-barb bollygum)
> are
>     > supposed to be two distinct plants, but both supposed to be based on
> same
>     > basionym Laurus cassia L.
>     >
>     > http://www.tropicos.org/Name/50148283
>     >
>
>     > GRIN cites  *Laurus cassia* L. (basionym); *Litsea zeylanica* Nees &
> T.
>     > Nees and  *Neolitsea zeylanica* (Nees & T. Nees) Merr. as synonyms of
>
>     > Neotitsea cassia (L.) Kosterm, but is silent on Cinnamomum cassia,
> except
>     > that it cites Cinnamomum cassia auct. as synonym of C. aromaticum
> Nees
>     >
>
>     > The Plant list cites *Laurus cassia* L. as well as *Cinnamomum
>
>     > aromaticum*Nees as synonyms of Cinnamomum cassia (Nees & T. Nees) J.
>
>     > Presl, silent on
>     > combination C. cassia (L.) C. Presl but does not cite any synonym for
>     > Neolitsea cassia (L.) Kosterm (not even the basionym for combination
> is
>     > mentioned).
>     >
>     > According to Flora of China Cinnamomum cassia (L.) D. Don is the
> accepted
>
>     > name with *Laurus cassia* L. *Cinnamomum aromaticum* Nees and
>  *Persea
>
>     > cassia *(L.) Sprengel. as synonyms
>
>     >
>     > I am at loss to comprehend how single binomial can be basionym for
> more
>     > than one distinct, accepted names. Any help in better understanding
> of
>     > situation?
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>     > Retired Associate Professor, Department of Botany, SGTB Khalsa
> College
>     > University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>     > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018
>     > Phone: 01125518297; Mobile: 9810359089
>     > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
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