[Taxacom] Wikispecies as an open alternative to Catalogue of
Life
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Wed Dec 14 16:56:29 CST 2011
2011
I suspect that Wikimedia is as "political" as any other institution, at least in some ways. However, (1)?Wikispecies exists; and (2) it seems stable (very rarely does the site go down for a short time).
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The rationale behind the site Species-ID explains some of the concerns about Wikimedia sites: the scientists who developed Species-ID didn't like anonymous contributions, and also didn't like the NOR policy of Wikimedia. The latter does give Species-ID a significant advantage over Wikimedia sites FOR SOME PURPOSES. However, if what we are interested in doing is just the integration of published biodiversity data, with names linked to the literature using BHL, etc., then Wikispecies is a great place to do this, though, for some reason, Rod page seems to think that his BioStor, and also Mendeley are better places.
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>From my perspective, the major drawback of the Wikispecies/Wikipedia approach to classification is that it really does not accommodate for multiple competing classifications in the same interface. That is, you cannot present the same taxon as both a
family (following authority A) and a subfamily (following authority B), etc.<
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actually, it is possible! At least it is easy to indicate alternative views. Other projects suffer from the same drawback, so it isn't really a problem unique to Wikimedia sites. Perhaps if Doug could indicate an actual example, we can see how we might handle it?
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I reiterate that full?edit histories are preserved for Wikimedia articles, and these can be linked to by way of stable URLs. Vandalism can only "put a new sheet of paper on the pile", it cannot alter the history. Hence, if you were to cite a Wikimedia article in a serious scientific context, you would site the current version not qua current version, but via the stable URL to that version of the article in the article history. This link would then be unaffected by any subsequent edits, by vandals or anyone else. On the other hand, EoL links to Wikipedia articles by capturing them as they are at a time, and then displaying them as yellow until they are "validated" by one of their curators (which rarely happens). In this context, it seems rather disingenuous to avoid possible updates and improvements of the article ...
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call me cynical, but I still maintain that reinventing the same infrastructure over and over is seen as a good easy way to spend research money (after institutions have "recouped their overheads"), which makes the Wikimedia sites unattractive precisely because they are independently funded. In other words, if scientific institutions don't create their own versions of Wikispecies, their employees are going to have to do something much more difficult (e.g. taxonomy) in order to keep the same money flowing through the system ... and what are all those GBIF and EOL people going to do to make ends meet?? Rubberstamping is great work, if you can get it, though you might suffer from RSI in your elbow!!
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another crucial issue is that no system is perfect. Yes, any nitwit can edit Wikimedia, BUT errors are effectively locked into other sites like EoL (when will they get around to fixing this (http://eol.org/pages/478954/overview), for example, and the "trusted" rubberstamp on the misidentified image really annoys me!)
Stephen
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From: Doug Yanega <dyanega at ucr.edu>
To: TAXACOM at MAILMAN.NHM.KU.EDU
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2011 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Wikispecies as an open alternative to Catalogue of Life
There are a large number of "pro" arguments supporting the use of
Wikispecies as a legitimate portal for biodiversity knowledge, not
the least of which is that it has not only a robust infrastructure
and flexible (and utilitarian) interface, but a funding source that
is, presumably, not subject to politics or struggles for external
support. It is basically a no-strings-attached gift to the scientific
community, and we are free to make of it whatever we'd like. That so
few scientists seem to exploit this seems more of an issue of
perception than of reality; folks seem to believe that any work they
contribute will inevitably be deleted or vandalized by incompetent
nitwits, and this is simply untrue. The concept of a wiki is that if
you are a contributor, you are ALSO a participant. That is, if you
are serious about your contributions, then you remain involved
*after* you have made your contribution, rather than just plopping
something down, and then going away forever and hoping no one touches
it. Wikis are self-policing, but they also have formal editorial
policies in place, and mechanisms for ensuring that those policies
are enforced. That includes policies to prevent incompetent nitwits
from deleting or vandalizing legitimate contributions - but you may
need to act as the enforcer yourself!
??? If one can get past the perception of wikis as the
playgrounds of vandals, and recognize them for the potentially
valuable resources they are, there are only a few significant "con"
arguments, and if there is to be a debate about the utility of wikis,
it should focus on these *real* drawbacks, rather than imaginary ones.
??? From my perspective, the major drawback of the
Wikispecies/Wikipedia approach to classification is that it really
does not accommodate for multiple competing classifications in the
same interface. That is, you cannot present the same taxon as both a
family (following authority A) and a subfamily (following authority
B), etc. This has significant consequences, some good, and some bad.
Since taxon pages are not indpendent of the ranks they are assigned,
there can only be ONE overall classification framework, which would
be ideal for the user community, but the taxonomic community is
unlikely to be able to agree upon it (should all interested parties
become involved). There is too little consensus and stability
involving higher-level ranks for a single master classification -
however *desirable* it may be to have one - to be unanimously
accepted. It is one thing for an idiosyncratic taxonomist to publish
idiosyncratic classifications and then pretend that their work is
meeting with limited acceptance, but it is another if they are
directly confronted by a mass of dissenters who refuse to acknowledge
their work, and maintain the "official" classification according to
consensus (where "limited acceptance" translates to nothing, since
the hierarchy is all-or-nothing). It would make the disputes in the
community less academic, and more personal, so such an approach is
virtually guaranteed to cause greater friction and alienation - and,
therefore, meet with resistance, especially from anyone whose
concepts are not mainstream. At its best, this level of consensus can
be viewed as a natural extension of peer review, and entirely
positive and desirable, but at its worst, it can amount to
censorship, which is not desirable. I can't see any easy way to set
things up so the former is permitted but the latter is not, which
therefore puts the entire enterprise at risk of losing support -
thus, the "single classification" model has to be treated as a
drawback so long as this issue of censorship is a legitimate concern.
??? John Grehan's point regarding phylogenies is, in part, not
directly applicable (since you can have ranks and nested groups
without an explicit phylogeny), but certainly along similar lines.
But just because you can't please everyone, does that mean we can't
ever even attempt a consensus classification?
Sincerely,
--
Doug Yanega? ? ? ? Dept. of Entomology? ? ? ? Entomology Research Museum
Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314? ? ? ? skype: dyanega
phone: (951) 827-4315 (standard disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://cache.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html
? "There are some enterprises in which a careful disorderliness
? ? ? ? is the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, Chap. 82
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