[Taxacom] Quick question re formation of a family-group name

[Stephen Thorpe]

yes, sorry, of course the -teuthis case is the same as the Pericelis case

but, all that is secondary to the main point that for Pericelis, the correct 
spelling is determined by "prevailing usage" (whatever that is?), by Art. 
29.3.1.1, since the original spelling of the family was elided

so, unless we can get an answer to what counts as a source for "prevailing 
usage" (primary taxonomic publications only, or Google hits?), you still can't 
answer?your original "quick" question ...

Stephen

PS: Quite hard to sort out nomenclatural issues on Taxacom, but we are getting 
there ...
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From: "Tony.Rees at csiro.au" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>
To: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz; dyanega at ucr.edu; TAXACOM at MAILMAN.NHM.KU.EDU
Sent: Tue, 21 December, 2010 3:57:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Quick question re formation of a family-group name

Stephen, I think you are missing something (my latin is not good enough), but 
?id is the latin stem for genera ending in ?is I think, therefore the squids are 
the same case as the flatworm, I believe.
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Cheers - Tony
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From:Stephen Thorpe [mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2010 1:55 PM
To: Doug Yanega; TAXACOM at MAILMAN.NHM.KU.EDU
Cc: Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Quick question re formation of a family-group name
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>The names "Pericelidae" and "Pericelididae" *are* formed in?accordance with Art. 
>29.3 (either is allowed)
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True (thanks to 29.3.1.1), but the -teuthis ones (and any other non -id cases) 
certainly aren't ...
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so, I was right the first time (Art. 29.5 put me wrong)
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to recap:
?
Pericelidae is the original spelling (i.e., elided)
?
so, by Art. 29.3.1.1, the correct spelling depends on "prevailing usage" 
(primary taxonomic publications only, or Google hits?)

if "prevailing usage" is elided then correct spelling is Pericelidae
?
if "prevailing usage" is unelided then correct spelling is Pericelididae
?
are we any further to knowing what the correct spelling is?
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Stephen
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From:Doug Yanega <dyanega at ucr.edu>
To: TAXACOM at MAILMAN.NHM.KU.EDU
Sent: Tue, 21 December, 2010 2:35:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Quick question re formation of a family-group name

Stephen Thorpe wrote:

>we seem to have a communication breakdown over this issue!
>
>again I refer you both to:
>
>29.5. Maintenance of current spellings. If a spelling of a 
>family-group name was not formed in accordance with Article 29.3 but 
>is in prevailing usage, that spelling is to be maintained, whether 
>or not it is the original spelling and whether or not its derivation 
>from the name of the type genus is in accordance with the 
>grammatical procedures in Articles 29.3.1 and 29.3.2.

The names "Pericelidae" and "Pericelididae" *are* formed in 
accordance with Art. 29.3 (either is allowed).

Art. 29.5 only applies to cases where they are NOT, e.g., if the name 
had been spelled "Pericelisidae".

Peace,
-- 

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