[Taxacom] PDF request

[王利松]

Great thanks Dave and others provide information in details. It is help for me to get better understanding for present biodiversity informatics field.

Yes, as a basic research, taxonomy established long before other applied research, such as ecology and phylogeny, which will accept taxonomic output as starting point. This situation is possibly same as present development in biodiversity informatics. Taxonomists or taxonomic efforts will function at the first stage, which will build an information infrastructure. During the latter stage of biodiversity informatics, possbiley, ecological(ecologists) and phylogenetic(systematists) modelling will be totaly integrated together.

Best regards,

Lisong

> -----原始邮件-----
> 发件人: "Dave Roberts" <workpackage6 at googlemail.com>
> 发送时间: 2010年8月23日 星期一
> 收件人: "taxacom taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> 抄送: "Lisong Wang" <lswang at ibcas.ac.cn>
> 主题: Re: [Taxacom] PDF request
> 
> Dear Lisong,
> 
> unfortunately the British Ecological Society (BES) don't make their  
> bulletin available electronically.  The text of the article is  
> available at
> 
> http://www.e-taxonomy.eu/node/648
> 
> to which Stephen referred.  The HTML was made from the same file as  
> published, so please use the BES citation if you wish to quote it.
> 
> The quote to which Stephen refers is simply an observation on the  
> frequency of descriptive taxonomists either presenting or defending  
> the plethora of initiatives in the field of biodiversity informatics.   
> Here we draw a distinction with bioinformatics, dominated by molecular  
> biologists, precisely because biodiversity informatics cares about  
> morphology and more particularly about nomenclature.
> 
> The article was published in the Bulletin of the British Ecological  
> Society and was basically an appeal that sprang from a coffee-time  
> conversation at eBiosphere with an ecologist lamenting the rather low  
> representation of ecologists and the other essential disciplines that  
> Fabian mentions in his response.  EDIT is very keen to see taxonomy  
> integrated into other activities and not to see it become a cul-de-sac  
> discipline.  Our view is that we need to mobilise the data that  
> taxonomists use and, wherever possible, integrate those resources into  
> forms that other disciplines need. Taxonomic output is often of  
> limited use outside taxonomy itself (= cul-de-sac).
> 
> So we want to encourage use of use wikispecies, wikipedia, EoL,  
> Scratchpads, GBIF and any of the other projects that are making  
> taxonomic products accessible.  We particularly want to see them  
> dynamically integrated into other products like ecology, climate  
> change, land-use, epidemiology and so on, for whom taxonomy is not a  
> goal in itself.
> 
> Cheers,  Dave
> --
> On 23 Aug 2010, at 04:06, Lisong Wang wrote:
> 
> > Hi, I am looking for a PDF paper, Tillier S. (2009) Biodiversity  
> > Informatics. What's in it for us? Bulletin of the British Ecological  
> > Society 2009 40(3): 39-42.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Lisong_______________________________________________
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