[Taxacom] DNA only descriptions

[stuart longhorn]

It doesn't appear to me that the article is released yet 

I can only see the abstract, including the quote 'We find no compelling evidence to exclude DNA-only descriptions, ...'

Should perhaps people wait to see the full-paper before crucifying them?
stuart

(it otherwise sounds to me like being willing to jump to conclusions from radical highlights [ie key snippets in the abstract =  a few radical DNA differences alone]  without the more protracted consideration of morphology and context [the core content of the paper and their expanded arguments]...)



> From: sevragorgia at gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:48:36 -0600
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] DNA only descriptions
> 
> I remember that not so long ago someone somewhere attempted to
> describe a species using a diagnosis like follows (don't remember the
> exact words):
> 
> species A: gap in position 250-256...
> 
> referring to an ITS alignment... Too many people is interested in
> DNA-only descriptions because... well, they cannot do morphology... If
> there's no problem as long as the DNA sequence is linked to an
> holotype... then why not to describe the morphology of the holotype as
> well?
> 
> sergio
> 
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> > http://www.publish.csiro.au/view/journals/dsp_journals_pip_abstract.cfm?nid=121&ver=2&pip=IS10011
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> > 'We find no compelling evidence to exclude DNA-only descriptions, ...'
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> > what "evidence" did they expect?
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