[Taxacom] Integrative taxonomy

[bti at dsmz.de]

Sorry to be a bit late in replying, but the candidatus section seems  
to be causing problems as are differences in terminology between codes.
1) The Bacteriological Code DOES NOT formally recognise candidatus  
names - they have no standing whatsoever under the Bacteriological Code
2) valid under the ICZN is the equivalent of the correct name under  
the ICBN and ICNB
3) candidatus names are certainly not validly published under the  
Bacteriological Code, which would be equivalent to a name being  
available (and also registered) under the ICZN
4) the "minimal scientific criteria" for the valid publication of a  
bacterial name largely centres on the fact that the name must be  
accopmpanied by a description, designation and deposit of types, etc.

Anyone interested is seeing what happens when one combines  
"traditional bacterial taxonomy" and genomics should view the  
Standards in Genomics Science
where the current issue give some in depth treatments of a number of species:
http://standardsingenomics.org/index.php/sigen/issue/current
It is the integration of the two areas that will be the most  
productive aspect.

Brian


Quoting Bob Mesibov <mesibov at southcom.com.au>:

> I'm happy (as always) to be contradicted, but this paper is the  
> first I've read in years that takes a truly broad, non-partisan view  
>  of taxonomy. If I was teaching taxonomy (in one of the few  
> institutions that still do it), I'd make it required reading for my  
> students. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that even Richard Zander  
> might like it - because of its evolutionary emphasis.
>
> The specific proposal of candidate species names is a good one, but  
> leaves open the question of what to do about newly diagnosed forms  
> that can't be associated in this way with a named species, or even a  
> genus. Maybe the best way to deal with this is to include candidates  
> of this kind in broader systematic treatments. This has been done  
> for a very long time in animal taxonomy, at least, by describing new  
> species in genus Whateverus, and then a 'Whateverus sp.' or two in  
> the back of the paper - described, but not named.
>
> If I have any problem at all with the thoughtful nature of this  
> paper, it's that it completely ignores geographic location as an  
> evolutionary character. That's a shame, because a paper the authors  
> point to with admiration - the Bond et al. study of trapdoor spiders  
> in California - showed that the entities diagnosed by molecular and  
> ecological characters occupied discrete parts of the map. If you  
> want to open the door to understanding 'species' as lineages, then  
> you need to accept that separate lineages typically live in separate  
> places, and that this is a Big Clue.
> --
> Dr Robert Mesibov
> Honorary Research Associate
> Queen Victoria Museum and Art Gallery, and
> School of Zoology, University of Tasmania
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