Wislizenus - finale !

[Jacques Melot]

  Le 12/11/96, ? 7:45 -0500, nous recevions de John McNeill :

>Jacques Melot, Reykjavik wrote:
>
>>Si le nom a traiter est vraiment <<F. A. Wislizenus>>, on peut soutenir
>>que ce nom latinise est <<already in [...] Latin>> et dans ce cas la
>>forme de l'epithete est <<wislizeni>> (le passage <<wislizenus>> ->
>><<wislizenii>> serait un peu choquant).
>
>Jacques:
>
>On what basis do you consider that the 19th century American of German
>birth, Friedrich [changed to Frederick in the US] Adolph Wislizenus,
>has a surname that is "already in Latin"?  It is true that the -us
>ending is uncommon in English (and I suppose German) surnames (-ius is
>commoner), but just because a German (or English) name ends in -us
>that surely does not make it Latin.  There is no suggestion that
>Wislizenus was a "latinization" of another name, analogous to, say,
>Bauhinus from Bauhin.
>
>John
>
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>       Toronto, Ontario, M5S 2C6, Canada.
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    La question s'est pos?e suite ? un message de Joseph E. Laferri?re
post? le 10 novembre 1996 dans Taxacom.

    J'ai ensuite trait? aussi ? fond que possible le sujet dans
plusieurs messages (y compris dans des forums de g?n?alogie) et le
cas de Wislizenus donnant l'?pith?te wislizeni (et non wislizenusii)
a finalement ?t? ins?r? dans la version de Saint Louis (2000) du Code
(Recomm. 60C2, p. 97).

    Tout ceci donc en novembre 1996.


    SIX ANS PLUS TARD... (ce qui est ?norme pour une r?ponse sur l'Internet !)

    Je viens de recevoir, il y a quelques minutes, le message suivant
d'un des descendants de F. A. Wislizenus, qui apporte des
?claircissement d?finitifs sur ce nom (confirmant aussi ce que
j'avais pu ?tablir et les hypoth?ses que j'ai faites ? l'?poque) :


From: "John B. Wilson" <cebujohn at cox.net>
To: <melot at ITN.IS>
Cc: <kymlicka at SK.SYMPATICO.CA>, <riczienk at FRANCENET.FR>
Subject: Wislizenus, F.A. &
http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-SLAVIC/1996-11/0848690186
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:14:25 -0700
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Regarding your Message on RootsWeb.com dated Friday, Nov. 22 1996,
subject WISLIZENUS :

Dr. F. A. Wislizenus was my maternal great-Grandfather.

According to records left by my grandmother, Mary Claire Alterton
Wislizenus, the Wislizenus family name was changed from Wisliczky to
Wislizenus by Christian, son of Nicolaus Wisliczky, born in 1668. The
records indicate that the family moved from Poland to Germany (to
Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt, before unification of Germany), about 1570.

He was a physician, not a botanist, but he was also an explorer of
the American West, with a partner, Dr. George Englemann, who was both
a physician and a botanist. During Wislizenus' travels he gathered
specimens which he sent or brought back to Englemann, some of which
were named for Wislizenus. Many others bear the name of Englemann.
There are many plants in the American West bearing those names.

He wrote two books about his travels, one of which is reproduced
verbatim at the following site:
http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/wislizenus/

John B. Wilson



    Comme le dit le proverbe fran?ais :

    ? Tout vient ? point ? qui sait attendre. ?

    Je ne pense pas que ce que nous apprenons ici remette en question
la forme ? donner ? l'?pith?te dans la mesure o? l'on peut consid?rer
qu'il s'agit d'un nom ? already in [...] Latin ? (Recomm. 60C2):
? Wislizenus ? est ? l'?vidence une latinisation volontaire du
polonais ? Wisliczky ?.

    Jacques Melot